you're funny........but not in the way you think you are.
give me one reason why a man made of sand should beat any torch. i heard he can control the sand rocks etc, but so what? johnny has examples of burrowing underground.......jim burrowed to the center of the earth. is some sand/rocks really going to stop either?
When has Johnny ever started on the ground? When he flame-ons he goes airborne. He'll go airborne as soon as the earth begins to quake. The ground doesn't give in within a split second. Johnny doesn't need to go SN to beat him. What can Sand do to Johnny that makes him need to dodge? If he is airborne then no quake or amount of sand will hurt him.
This almost seems like a bait thread, even though it's not, because most are tacitly endorsing Johnny because they have no knowledge of Sand, just that his name is "Sand."
Amusing. Logical, to an extent, but amusing. And wrong, as it happens, though not through fault of their logic....just that the character is slightly more than the name implies.
I don't know what our threshold would be for determining if/when Sand is dead. He existed indefinitely as part of the Earth, over so vast a tract of land that Johnny could never hope to affect it all. If Johnny was smart, he might get an indefinite stalemate out of it, because it would be hard for Sand to hurt him as well. But the only one who could legitimately win this fight is Sand.
besides, when you put an obscure character in a match, you should always make sure to explain stats/feats/reasons for win and prefebly display feats to justify a victory.........at least, that's what i'd do.
I just wanted to test how much the forum knew about Sand. I might make a respect thread.
He could take Johnny out when Johnny's in the air as well, of course. He hit Black Adam with a mud geiser. He's used lava streams, ground structures... even walls and ceilings, though that doesn't apply here.