Rule Amendments & Clarifications Discussion

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Rule Amendments & Clarifications Discussion

It seems that there are posters who don't understand the rules or try to twist the rules in order to make things easier for the character they're debating for or against. Raoul and I have made every attempt to clarify things but there's a core of posters who still disregard rules and our posts. So let's just clear things up so the bias and trolling can be averted. I'll be using Superman and Silver Surfer as examples.

Concerning the Battlefield
Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.

Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. This means that, for example, Flash will in fact have SpeedForce abilities if the battle took place in Marvel Manhattan. Battles will always take place on an assumed equal playing field.

If nothing is stated for location, then the battlefield is an arena setting in a neutral universe.

PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Superman and Silver Surfer usually think of the safety of civilians and buildings first. Rarely do we see them go full on at the get go, due to their concerns. It's even been stated in comics. The VS Forum is an entirely different set up. No people, no buildings and the characters get general knowledge of their opponents. Superman and Silver Surfer wouldn't start a match with their strongest attack against Cyclops or Batman because they would kill them instantly. But it's plausible that they would go all out against each other since they have common knowledge and know it probably wouldn't result in an "insta-kill".

What I've explained isn't CIS......

CIS
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

.....It's a self imposed limitation in certain circumstances which there is concern for civilians and buildings for the most part. It's not stupidity, it's a limitation set until the threat exceeds a certain threshold.

To be clear, characters like Superman, Silver Surfer, Wonder Woman, Sentry, Captain Marvel (DC), Thor, etc. can and will use all their attributes when the situation allows or is needed. This is still within their personalities since we've seen instances several times. This doesn't mean it's strictly power sets. The feats have to be supported by comic showings.

Isn't GG banned though now?

I mean, these are pretty easy rules to understand.

Penis.

Good grief, what a joke.

Why did you use the Sentry as an example? And not Thor?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Why did you use the Sentry as an example? And not Thor?
he did say etc., which prob includes thor

Originally posted by Mekrob
Isn't GG banned though now?

I mean, these are pretty easy rules to understand.

From what I see in the reports there are still people who don't understand.
Originally posted by Thorion
Good grief, what a joke.
Joke's on you then. Last chance to stop your trolling and to abide by the rules.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Why did you use the Sentry as an example? And not Thor?
Because.....
Originally posted by Starscream M
he did say etc., which prob includes thor

There, Thor's been added. All better Kris?

well with characters like thor, all though he has other options and powers it a key part of his personality to prefer brawling with mjolnir. While i would consider it cis that he will go most of the fight like that while using the other attacks occasionally others might say its pis that he would do still do that when he has other means to end the fight quicker.

Originally posted by Badabing

There, Thor's been added. All better Kris?

why's thor in bold...that's unfair 😛

Originally posted by Badabing
From what I see in the reports there are still people who don't understand.
Joke's on you then. Last chance to stop your trolling and to abide by the rules.
Because.....

There, Thor's been added. All better Kris?

Smart move biscuits

Originally posted by jalek moye
well with characters like thor, all though he has other options and powers it a key part of his personality to prefer brawling with mjolnir. While i would consider it cis that he will go most of the fight like that while using the other attacks occasionally others might say its pis that he would do still do that when he has other means to end the fight quicker.
Just trying to open up the discussion to cut down on people using the rules to manipulate a character one way or the other.
Originally posted by Starscream M
why's thor in bold...that's unfair 😛
Kris is Norwegian....I have to sate the Norwegian lobby. 😛
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Smart move biscuits
dursmart

I think Sue using a force bubble in a person's head to be out of character unless the situation was dire. Any thoughts?

yea i doubt she would even then. that is like her absoulute fate of her kids type attack

Originally posted by Badabing
I think Sue using a force bubble in a person's head to be out of character unless the situation was dire. Any thoughts?
it would be out of character

but I thought the rules pretty much assumes everyone unleashes their full powersets?

The only people who won't like this, are the people who are trolls.

Originally posted by Starscream M
it would be out of character

but I thought the rules pretty much assumes everyone unleashes their full powersets?


they unleash all they they could do but normally dont, but won't surpass their mental restraints of certian tatics

Originally posted by Starscream M
it would be out of character

but I thought the rules pretty much assumes everyone unleashes their full powersets?

It's not an example of her "unleashing her full powerset" it's simply a more violent application.

Originally posted by Starscream M
it would be out of character

but I thought the rules pretty much assumes everyone unleashes their full powersets?

It does but they must stay within character unless something is noted in the thread, like her kids will die and a force bubble to the head was the only way to save them. Someone like Black Adam has no problem ripping people apart, literally.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The only people who won't like this, are the people who are trolls.
That's the idea.

👆 at the first post.

Question, what about thread specific environments? If the OP says that the fight takes place in NYC are buildings and civilians to be taken into account?