We saw Michael defeated at full power right after he routed Lucifer with a simple spear thrust by Sandolphon. Overrating him again I see? Based on what? certainly nothing in the Lucifer series.
your interpretation of said events, and your choosing to use a character at less than full power, means very little to me.
bottom line: at his height, lucifer *easily* warped the destructive power released from michael, into his very own multiverse.
so unless you can point me to the issue in which LT releases > multiversal energies, i think it's perfectly logical to assume lucifer could warp any sort of 'attack' that was thrown at him.
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"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
Yes, through a controlled detonation meaning Lucifer was going to survive out in the void he harnessed someone else's energies.
Except we didn't see him do any of that in his actual comic. Controlled detonation should mean something to you.
There's a reason Michael beat him and he developed a strategy to avoid Amenadiel and his host of angels when they went to earth looking for him. He couldn't beat them. If he could warp any attack thrown his way why not warp Michael's blast. Hint, hint because he survived a controlled detonation.
you say 'controlled detonation' as though lucifer had some sort of external protection. he didn't. if you think otherwise, you really need to read [and try to comprehend] that story again.
the only reason lucifer took michael to the void to 'detonate' him, is because lucifer knew the energies released would be sufficient for him to shape his own multiverse. if michael hadn't been taken to the void, the energy he released would have obliterated yahweh's creation.
so the bottom line [again] is: lucifer tanked a multiversal big bang, and then shaped those energies into a physical multiverse.
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also, the reason lucifer didn't warp michael's attacks when they battled later at a later time, is because lucifer was NOT at full power. anyone who read [and comprehended] the events of that series would know that.
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anyhow, you further debating the points i have mentioned would not only be moot, but it would reveal the lengths you will go in order to try and demean a character [ie. using showings said character has, while at FAR less than full power, etc.]
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"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
No, it's you who doesn't comprehend the story. he controlled those energies and reshaped his own universe. That's not to say he can control any blast directed at him for harm. That's completely and utterly ridiculous. he had a plan and knew how to achieve his supposed escape from tyranny.
This is about as bad as the argument that prime can survive a universal blast so anything less can't beat him.
I know it would have overwhelmed creation but Michael's powers are the powers of Creation.
Lucifer simply manipulated those energies which doesn't mean he can manipulate any other attack thrown his way. You misinterpret Michael's demiurgic powers and incorrectly compare it to an offensive attack from the Lt.
Lucifer and Michael weren't at full power but Michael was weaker and held back due to Fenris poisoning his mind. Michael's wings were broken and him holding back got him killed. Fenris outplayed Lucifer across the board here.
I am simply giving you my interpretation which I believe to be the correct one. There's a difference with Michael's powers when he wants you dead and his death/recreation powers. I had hoped you would have understood it.
You are the one confusing the power of creation to any attack Michael can muster. He was a lot more powerful and had the power to annihilate the entire host had he wanted to. Hesitation cost him. Lucifer simply manipulated the powers of creation and nothing more. The manner in which he was portrayed in combat should make this abundantly clear.
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