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Squirrel Fart
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COIE Anti Monitor vs Solar vs HOM Wanda

Who wins?


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MOTA.


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HOM Wanda.

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I'm thinking Solar has the best chance, due to his ability to instantly stop time.. *shrug*


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I'm thinking Solar has the best chance, due to his ability to instantly stop time.. *shrug*

When dealing with high end cosmics and reality warpers, time (which isn't even a universal constant) really shouldn't matter. erm


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When dealing with high end cosmics and reality warpers, time (which isn't even a universal constant) really shouldn't matter. erm
I see your point. But for the purposes of versus threads, if one character has demonstrated the ability to stop time, and his opponent(s) have not, then I am only going to assume the former character is the only one capable of such.


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I see your point. But for the purposes of versus threads, if one character has demonstrated the ability to stop time, and his opponent(s) have not, then I am only going to assume the former character is the only one capable of such.

I'm not sure if Mxy has ever stopped time on panel. Does that mean Waverider can beat him?


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I'm not sure if Mxy has ever stopped time on panel. Does that mean Waverider can beat him?
Except Mxy has, so your point is irrelevant.


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They should have just stopped time to beat AM.

Those idiots.


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They should have just stopped time to beat AM.

Those idiots.
Remember though, AM traveled to a point before time even existed - so time-stoppage wouldn't have been an option.


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Spectre could have existed time all over his face.


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Except Mxy has, so your point is irrelevant.

You know what I mean. Timestopping feats don't automatically put you above a character without time stopping feats. Waverider is not > Monarch for instance.


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Spectre could have existed time all over his face.
Spectre can't even affect people without souls. He's as useless as SoK.

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You know what I mean. Timestopping feats don't automatically put you above a character without time stopping feats. Waverider is not > Monarch for instance.
Time manipulation is rarely used by any character(s) capable of doing so. For instance, Extant showed us how quick (and relatively unexciting) battles can be when temporal manipulation is used offensively.

That said, writers are going to consider the plot of the story well before they take into account what a given character is capable of.


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Stop time? ... to defeat HOM Wanda? no expression

Wanda rewrote the actual Concept of Time itself,
yet we are to assume she may not have been able to stop it?
She also tore the entire Omniverse (space-time and all in-between) to pieces,
and then rebuilt it with a thought, but meh.

Anyway, during the HOM arc, Wanda was giving God status over Marvel.

No one is defeating her, just like no one could during said arc.

Wanda is one of the most powerful characters ever to exist in Marvel.


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Stop time? ... to defeat HOM Wanda? no expression

Wanda rewrote the actual Concept of Time itself,
yet we are to assume she may not have been able to stop it?
She also tore the entire Omniverse (space-time and all in-between) to pieces,
and then rebuilt it with a thought, but meh.

Anyway, during the HOM arc, Wanda was giving God status over Marvel.

No one is defeating her, just like no one could during said arc.

Wanda is one of the most powerful characters ever to exist in Marvel.


Wait....is that the real Master or Colossus?


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The simple fact that Wanda released the chaos wave is not indicative of her having *controllable* temporal manipulation powers of her own, imo.

A military general can fire off a nuclear weapon simply by pushing a button. That doesn't mean he could vaporize a city on his own.


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Solar though I think CoiE AM who absorbed the energies of his Antimatterverse could take some wins.


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The simple fact that Wanda released the chaos wave is not indicative of her having *controllable* temporal manipulation powers of her own, imo.

A military general can fire off a nuclear weapon simply by pushing a button. That doesn't mean he could vaporize a city on his own.

It also doesn't mean he could rebuild the vaporized city with a thought afterwards, to add to your analogy.

Wanda did. That displays control over the Chaos Wave.

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Originally posted by The Nuul
Wait....is that the real Master or Colossus?
he 's right though cool


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It also doesn't mean he could rebuild the vaporized city with a thought afterwards,
to add to your analogy.

Wanda did.

That displays control over the Chaos Wave.

yes Darn, took the fonts right out of my cpu.

Anyway ... thumb up

That aside, Wanda warped the 616 Universe, (space-time)
turning it into a completely different Universe. (58163)
(and this had nothing to do with the Chaos Wave)

So, "Time" was Wanda's plaything, in either case.


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