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Best schemer.

Who in all comic is the best at scheming?


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Scheme has a negative connotation. Are we limited only to villains? Admittedly, they "scheme" more anyway, since heroes' plans are usually reactive instead of proactive, thus not making it scheming.

The Riddler comes to mind. His schemes may not have been the most diabolical or large-scale, but they were always elaborate.


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Apocalypse, Loki, Thanos, Doom for marvel side. IDK about the DC side.

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Loki and maybe Luthor.


Oh and of course, an all-time favorite of mine: Immortus.


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Thanos by a mile


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Originally posted by Digi
Scheme has a negative connotation. Are we limited only to villains? Admittedly, they "scheme" more anyway, since heroes' plans are usually reactive instead of proactive, thus not making it scheming.

The Riddler comes to mind. His schemes may not have been the most diabolical or large-scale, but they were always elaborate.
I am talking aboutscheming not just planning.Scheming means: Scheming is a ingenious way to out maneuver and out wit many minds in advancing devious goals without detection. This can be performed by either one person or by an elite group of schemers. Scheming is an art form. It is art because scheming can be carried out in any possible way at any possible time. If your not sure you've been schemed, than it has been properly done on you. Scheming is usually done to lessen heads from certain activities: smoking some tasty haze


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Originally posted by Mshinu
Thanos by a mile


By doing what? Tricking Mephisto? Immortus tricked Mephisto too and to this day Mephisto hasn't noticed


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By doing what? Tricking Mephisto? Immortus tricked Mephisto too and to this day Mephisto hasn't noticed
Tricking Mistress Death into allowing him to go after the Infinty gems.


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I will point out Tao from Wildstorm, who was incredibly good and did so pretty much because he could. He wrecked an entire team with little but words and plans.


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I'd say R'as Al Ghul for long term and Dr Doom for short term.

Edit: Shit forgot about TAO.


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Right now I'll go with the leader. Whose plans and mind games are on their way to capturing the eight.

Possibly also magus during the infinity war saga had so many things in motion it was crazy..

Baron zemo etc...
Norman osborn schemes his way into becoming the director of shield...

Luthor gained the presidency in dc


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Loki has been doing some good scheming since his return.


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Originally posted by rotiart
Right now I'll go with the leader. Whose plans and mind games are on their way to capturing the eight.

Possibly also magus during the infinity war saga had so many things in motion it was crazy..

Baron zemo etc...
Norman osborn schemes his way into becoming the director of shield...

Luthor gained the presidency in dc

I'm still not sure how that happened. I can understand Luthor winning the Presidency, after all at that point he was still a mostly respected public figure with a history of philanthropy. But Osbourne? He kills the Skrull Queen on Live TV and suddenly everyone forgets he's a crazy ******* and decide to give him power as a kneejerk reaction due to Tony Stark's fall from grace? Jesus how dumb is Marvel America anyway?


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I'm still not sure how that happened. I can understand Luthor winning the Presidency, after all at that point he was still a mostly respected public figure with a history of philanthropy. But Osbourne? He kills the Skrull Queen on Live TV and suddenly everyone forgets he's a crazy ******* and decide to give him power as a kneejerk reaction due to Tony Stark's fall from grace? Jesus how dumb is Marvel America anyway?


it seems like a real life reflection of our america embarrasment


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it seems like a real life reflection of our america embarrasment
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Loki, Doom, Sinister, Thanos not sure in what order...

Luthor, Darkseid, Rath aghul, and im just gonna put this out there.... Batman!

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Loki, Doom, Sinister, Thanos not sure in what order...

Luthor, Darkseid, Rath aghul, and im just gonna put this out there.... Batman!

Darkseid is an excellent schemer who unfortunately doesn't get the respect he deserves in that regard. His plan in Countdown (the parts that made sense at least) was impressive.


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I'm still not sure how that happened. I can understand Luthor winning the Presidency, after all at that point he was still a mostly respected public figure with a history of philanthropy. But Osbourne? He kills the Skrull Queen on Live TV and suddenly everyone forgets he's a crazy ******* and decide to give him power as a kneejerk reaction due to Tony Stark's fall from grace? Jesus how dumb is Marvel America anyway?


Um.. luthor goes around flying in a robot suit attacking superheres and is a popular and known enemy of superman, essential the poster boy for all that is good in the world. So... Yeah anyway it's retarted that either osborne and Luthor got in power but maybe it was how writers feel about out last presidency. Some douche rising to power and doing some ****ed up shit.

Anyway the general public are usually far dumber so why would comic book life be any different?

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Originally posted by Nihilist
Tricking Mistress Death into allowing him to go after the Infinty gems.


That's good, but Immortus made an abstract level being sleep with a robot


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