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Super Mutant vs Thor and Superman

Super Mutant:

Mind + Body:
- Emma Frost's mind and telepathy
- Colossus organic steel body - w/ stamina, strength, and durability
- Wolverine's adamantium skeleton, claws, super senses and healing factor

Additional Powers:
- Iceman's cryokinesis
- Magneto's magnetism manipulation
- Sebastian Shaw's kinetic energy power
- Northstar's flight ability, speed and reaction
- Storm's Weather Manipulation
- Havok's energy powers
- Cyclops' optic energy beam


Can he defeat Thor and Superman?


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If he can act first then the mutant wins this easily. But both Superman and Thor have the power to one-shot ko him with planet destroying attacks. So if Superman uses his top speed to blitz at the bell then the team could win. Otherwise, it is all she wrote for the team.


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Super mutant wins this.

He is more powerful, faster (by a long shot) and more durable.


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You created a skyfather.


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Not that it matters much, as this amalgam is a monster, but as far as CIS/CIP goes, what is it's personality like? I'm assuming it's Emma's as it has her mind.


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Not that it matters much, as this amalgam is a monster, but as far as CIS/CIP goes, what is it's personality like? I'm assuming it's Emma's as it has her mind.
It has Emma's personality

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Btw, I'm adding Silver Surfer and Wonder Woman to the herald squad.


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With the add of heralds the team would win but it would still be hard.


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just Thor and Supes = Super Mutant win
Thor,Supes,SS and WW = team win

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Thor and superman ftw. Adding surfer makes this a total stomp.


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You created a skyfather.


I really dont know how u are getting this.


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I really dont know how u are getting this.
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Thor and superman ftw. Adding surfer makes this a total stomp.
how would thor and superman beat him?


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how would thor and superman beat him?


Firstly the amalgams power output is nothing out of the ordinary. HAvoc and cyclops energy beams are not much compared to what thor and superman can dish out. Nextly colossus durability doesnt put u at a level beyond either Thor or superman. Wolverines HF is a nice touch but he can still be koed. Nextly speedwise superman is still just as fast and probably faster than he is so thats another place he doesnt have the advanage. Thor further cancels out any advantage that the amalgam would have via his energy manip coming from storm and magneto.

So really with their combined attributes Thor and superman have this amalgam beat in almost evry category. (Adding surfer would just be murder as surfer by himself has this amalgam beat in practically evry category and then some)


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He would have been better off with Iceman's body, btw.


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Firstly the amalgams power output is nothing out of the ordinary. HAvoc and cyclops energy beams are not much compared to what thor and superman can dish out. Nextly colossus durability doesnt put u at a level beyond either Thor or superman. Wolverines HF is a nice touch but he can still be koed. Nextly speedwise superman is still just as fast and probably faster than he is so thats another place he doesnt have the advanage. Thor further cancels out any advantage that the amalgam would have via his energy manip coming from storm and magneto.

So really with their combined attributes Thor and superman have this amalgam beat in almost evry category. (Adding surfer would just be murder as surfer by himself has this amalgam beat in practically evry category and then some)
super mutant has magneto's powers which in the past were enough to handle thor

he also has iceman's powers...and remember has emma's mind, meaning he can do some crazy stuff with it

his durability is insane because its colossus mixed with logan's hf...plus adamantium skeleton

he also has sebastian shaw powers...meaning he's only gonna get more amped everytime thor or superman lays it in on him

with havoc's power, he can absorb many of the energy attacks

I think you're severely underestimating super mutant


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I think Superman and Thor would lose a majority if it wasn't for Superman's speed.

Magneto's powers can control Mjolnir (enough to slow Thor down), probably effect Superman's blood (slow him down too). Also those adamantium claws with Colossus strength is very dangerous.

Havok and Cyclops powers are almost useless and can only be used as a distraction to set up something big or cause the team to be on the defense (to slow them down).

It may be better for the mutant to not have a steel or adamantium body. Maybe transporting into Thor and freezing him may work, not sure.

The best strategy is probably to control both Thor's hammer and Superman's blood (if that is possible) momentarily while he blitzes them with the claws, fatally wounding them. But the problem is Superman's speed.


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super mutant has magneto's powers which in the past were enough to handle thor

he also has iceman's powers...and remember has emma's mind, meaning he can do some crazy stuff with it

his durability is insane because its colossus mixed with logan's hf...plus adamantium skeleton

he also has sebastian shaw powers...meaning he's only gonna get more amped everytime thor or superman lays it in on him

with havoc's power, he can absorb many of the energy attacks

I think you're severely underestimating super mutant


Magnetos powers were in the past enough to handle thor? please explain what ur talking about.

icemans powers are useful ill give u that but both thor and superman have shown resistance to those type of attacks (kinetic energy manip)

His durability is good, but neither collosus nor wolverine are in the same durability park as Thor and superman

Sebastien shaw doesnt have unliimited kinetic energy absorption abilities iirc.

Thor has far better energy absorption capabilities than havoc.

If it comes right down to it, this amalgam is powerful but not at all what some are trying to make it out to be. Silver surfer would solo this amalgam quite frankly and the team of thor and superman would certainly beat it as well.


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Originally posted by Starscream M
super mutant has magneto's powers which in the past were enough to handle thor

he also has iceman's powers...and remember has emma's mind, meaning he can do some crazy stuff with it

his durability is insane because its colossus mixed with logan's hf...plus adamantium skeleton

he also has sebastian shaw powers...meaning he's only gonna get more amped everytime thor or superman lays it in on him

with havoc's power, he can absorb many of the energy attacks

I think you're severely underestimating super mutant


Man I forgot he can absorb both physical hits and energy hits. This guy is crazy hard.

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Magnetos powers were in the past enough to handle thor? please explain what ur talking about.
Magneto controlled Thor's hammer at will.
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Sebastien shaw doesnt have unliimited kinetic energy absorption abilities iirc.
You're right here. I don't know if he can absorb planet destroying punches well. That would probably overload him.
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Thor has far better energy absorption capabilities than havoc.
That's probably true. But he meant that the Mutant has defense against it nothing more.
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If it comes right down to it, this amalgam is powerful but not at all what some are trying to make it out to be. Silver surfer would solo this amalgam quite frankly and the team of thor and superman would certainly beat it as well.
Surfer may solo but this team is in for a hard fight indeed. Unless Superman pulls he very best speed out from the get go.

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Thor has also pawned Magnus, btw.


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