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Question Nightcrawler VS Beast

Nightcrawler vs Beast H2h

no teleporting

who wins ?


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In the older days, NC would've won, he showed enormous striking strength, and his speed was crazy.

Nowadays, he's still faster than Beast, more agile, etc... I just don't think he has the raw power to really hurt Hank though.

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How strong exactly is Nightcrawler?

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not anymore than peak human?


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Originally posted by SuperiorTech
How strong exactly is Nightcrawler?


He's peak human now, or a little above it.

In the earlier years, he hurt Spidey with his blows, beat down a sentinel with a piece of iron, dropped a 20ft tall Rock Troll, etc... So he was easily into the superhuman class, although it was only striking strength.

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beast is a peer of his in terms of agility and speed, beast's punching power however is exclusive to him in this fight. 2 punches max

not to mention the claws, healing factor, and durability, it's a stomp for beast.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
beast is a peer of his in terms of agility and speed, beast's punching power however is exclusive to him in this fight. 2 punches max

not to mention the claws, healing factor, and durability, it's a stomp for beast.
but nightcrawler is a little bit more agile and quicker than beast. kurt has better acrobatic fighting skills than hank.


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they have the same exact skills if you throw out the teleportation.

old school hairless beast has tons of acrobatic feats (due to the story being more focused on him since he was the resident strong man and there were fewer x-men), currently he's better all around plus more powers/lethality.

a hand spring/backflip routine by nightcrawler would get overshadowed by beast's due to his strength advantage


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
they have the same exact skills if you throw out the teleportation.

old school hairless beast has tons of acrobatic feats (due to the story being more focused on him since he was the resident strong man and there were fewer x-men), currently he's better all around plus more powers/lethality.

a hand spring/backflip routine by nightcrawler would get overshadowed by beast's due to his strength advantage
speed advantage>> strength advantage


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speed advantage>> strength advantage


Yeah, Mystique vs Colossus is a total stomp for Raven.

lol

Anyway, having a speed advantage doesn't mean much when it's only so marginal.


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Nightcrawlers speed actually is noticably greater than Beasts. NC casually dodges machine gun fire, from close range...behind him.

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Originally posted by chomperx9
speed advantage>> strength advantage


This aint Streetfighter. I reckon Hank takes this solely because Kurt ain't going for kill moves. Just knockdown.


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This aint Streetfighter. I reckon Hank takes this solely because Kurt ain't going for kill moves. Just knockdown.
your right strengh advantage >>> speed advantage

blob>>> flash right ?


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your right strengh advantage >>> speed advantage

blob>>> flash right ?
cause nightcrawler is faster than beast in the exact same way that flash is faster than blob right?

i really can't see nightcrawler wining one fight without it resulting in him being near unconsciousness let alone winning easily without his trump card. on the other hand beast might very well beat the blue velvet off of nightcrawler every time without a welt to show for it.


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Originally posted by chomperx9
your right strengh advantage >>> speed advantage

blob>>> flash right ?


My point was that such a simplicity doesn't count in comics you have to gauge the characters themselves.

Hank Wins.


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Is Nightcrawler really faster than Beast?

Also, I would have thought Beast was at least as agile as Kurt.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
they have the same exact skills if you throw out the teleportation.

old school hairless beast has tons of acrobatic feats (due to the story being more focused on him since he was the resident strong man and there were fewer x-men), currently he's better all around plus more powers/lethality.

a hand spring/backflip routine by nightcrawler would get overshadowed by beast's due to his strength advantage


That's a good explanation of all those great agility feats from the Original X-Men days. Back then he seemed as agile as Spiderman, and he's supposed to have become more more powerful with each mutation.
He's also one of the 8 cleverest men on Earth.
I'd say Nightcrawler and Beast are more or less the same in speed and agility, with Kurt being maybe slightly faster, but not to any meaningful extent, and Beast being slightly more agile.
Kurt seems a better fighter, but Beast is so much stronger, plus has his claws, hyper senses and super genius intellect.
Beast wins.

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Is Nightcrawler really faster than Beast?

Also, I would have thought Beast was at least as agile as Kurt.
they have the same acrobatic skills but nightcrawler is slightly faster


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IMO Agility and speed is a touch better than Beasts.
Beasts definitely wins in the strength department as well as durability.

Similar abilities without teleportation. It's jus that Beast is the stronger and more durable one (don't really think people are going to argue this) and NC's agility and speed advantage is not enough to compensate.

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who said beast is stronger? the bio? i see no feats to support it, NC got the better speed and agility feats, the better fighting feats and even the better strength feats then beast so what are beast feats to even suggest he is stronger then night crawler? or even in his class at fighting?

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