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Mon-El vs Wonder Woman

Who wins?

Jul 1st, 2010 11:06 AM

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Which version of Mon-El? The most experienced Legion ones can likely do about or near 50/50, but she'll beat less experienced versions.

The magic bug-zappers she has on her arms are a pretty nice anti-kryptonian weapon I'd think.

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^ Mon-El isn't Kryptonian. He's a Daxamite. And he's fast as hell. Here, Wonderwoman's got her work cut out for her.

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Probably Mon-El. WW was barely holding her own against bloodlusted Superman, and her stats are generally inferior across the board.

She can take wins thanks to her skills, but I can't see her taking a majority.

Jul 1st, 2010 04:09 PM

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Some Mon-El feats please?

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Wonder Woman. Stats are similiar. Daxamites were supposed to be stronger than Superman but never really seemed that way. He's got nothing she isn't used to.

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Originally posted by Bentley
Some Mon-El feats please?

Off the top of my head, from his time as Valor in the early 90's:

He was beating Superman in a Superman/L.E.G.I.O.N. story. Supes actually knocked him through a wall in a cheap shot, but Mon-El eventually beat him down and was strangling him. His own team had to knock him out stop the fight.

He hung with Lobo about as well as anyone.

Jul 1st, 2010 04:39 PM

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Off the top of my head, from his time as Valor in the early 90's:

He was beating Superman in a Superman/L.E.G.I.O.N. story. Supes actually knocked him through a wall in a cheap shot, but Mon-El eventually beat him down and was strangling him. His own team had to knock him out stop the fight.

He hung with Lobo about as well as anyone.

That was Byrne Superman. sad

Jul 1st, 2010 04:44 PM

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I think Jurgens did the story. Besides, Byrne Superman was still powerful enough to smack around MM, and generally seemed above Wonder Woman.. Not to mention the Darkseid thing.. Don't know what Byrne was thinking on that one, considering his Darkseid is pretty damned powerful.

A possessed Valor also gave Superman trouble in Eclipso, for what that's worth. Superman won, but narrowly.

Jul 1st, 2010 04:52 PM

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I think Jurgens did the story. Besides, Byrne Superman was still powerful enough to smack around MM, and generally seemed above Wonder Woman.. Not to mention the Darkseid thing.. Don't know what Byrne was thinking on that one, considering his Darkseid is pretty damned powerful.

A possessed Valor also gave Superman trouble in Eclipso, for what that's worth. Superman won, but narrowly.

In a physical/Mele Confrontation, Wonder Woman is going to beat or Stalemate every herald in the DCU Except Superman. That is pretty evident in all of her encounters. Superman is>Every Mele/physical Herald in total power.(Cept maybe the Flash)

Jul 1st, 2010 05:12 PM

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Can't see her stalemating Adam. WW's had her share of problems too, from characters besides Superman...

Jul 1st, 2010 05:34 PM

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Can't see her stalemating Adam. WW's had her share of problems too, from characters besides Superman...

WW's main physical Problems have come from Superman, Genocide, Zoom, Amped Doomsday versions, Etc. Nothing to think of as low. Slade. Blah, he's Slade. She's already Stalemated CM so why not BA? http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...285_500x742.jpg

Jul 1st, 2010 05:41 PM

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WW's main physical Problems have come from Superman, Genocide, Zoom, Amped Doomsday versions, Etc. Nothing to think of as low. Slade. Blah, he's Slade. She's already Stalemated CM so why not BA? http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...285_500x742.jpg

BA is a way better fighter than CM.

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BA is a way better fighter than CM.

True. But she was holding back in that fight and was weaker then. Taking all into account, I'd say she'd stalemate BA.

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Black Adam seems to be above CM and possibly SM too, WW3 especially may place him low in the trans category, so may not be the best comparison.

And with Marvels, she has the lasso-revert trick for a cheap win too.

Anyway, lightyeargee's statement I think holds true with all the herald level heroes at the least.

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True. But she was holding back in that fight and was weaker then. Taking all into account, I'd say she'd stalemate BA.

And CM was mesmerized and probably not fighting at 100% either. BA would beat WW.

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And CM was mesmerized and probably not fighting at 100% either. BA would beat WW.

Likely not. He's not stronger. If he is, by how much? Superman is Stronger than WW. I dont' see BA as being Superman's equal. WW is Faster than BA. No disputing that. She's a better fighter than he is. And she's got he weapons. It would be a split because he is tougher and heals faster.

Jul 1st, 2010 07:13 PM