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Marvel's Most Powerful Demon? Zom vs Shuma Gorath vs Chthon vs Set

Seriously, unless I'm missing something, these guys seem to be the creme de la creme of satanic powers in Marvel. Question is, who's the top dog?

As much as I want to say Shuma (we've all seen the Dr. Strange scans), I'm gonna have to side with Zom.

Zom was imprisoned by a cabal of powers and principalities that included Dormammu and Eternity (back when Eternity wasn't the joke he is now). His release prompted the Living Tribunal himself to spring into action.

We all know Chthon is the Lord of the Darkhold (a cornerstone of creation), a book of black magic that rivals the Book of the Vishanti in power. Eternity hinted that left unchecked in this universe, he'd pose a deadly and real threat to him.

Set, is a beast now. In the Marvel Arcana and Marvel Tarot arcs/one shots, it seems like he's the most powerful of the Elders (Chthon, Gaea, Oshtur, Set). The Father of the Seven Deadly Sins, the Crown of Power (one of the cornerstones of Creation) and 7 extremely power elder evils.

PS Anyone ever check the Arcana/Tarot stuff out?

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What the ****... sick

Also, I'm not sure.. I'll just toss a coin and say Zom.


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Seriously, unless I'm missing something, these guys seem to be the creme de la creme of satanic powers in Marvel. Question is, who's the top dog?

As much as I want to say Shuma (we've all seen the Dr. Strange scans), I'm gonna have to side with Zom.

Zom was imprisoned by a cabal of powers and principalities that included Dormammu and Eternity (back when Eternity wasn't the joke he is now). His release prompted the Living Tribunal himself to spring into action.

We all know Chthon is the Lord of the Darkhold (a cornerstone of creation), a book of black magic that rivals the Book of the Vishanti in power. Eternity hinted that left unchecked in this universe, he'd pose a deadly and real threat to him.

Set, is a beast now. In the Marvel Arcana and Marvel Tarot arcs/one shots, it seems like he's the most powerful of the Elders (Chthon, Gaea, Oshtur, Set). The Father of the Seven Deadly Sins, the Crown of Power (one of the cornerstones of Creation) and 7 extremely power elder evils.

PS Anyone ever check the Arcana/Tarot stuff out?


Zom
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Set

Chthon is the most powerful of the elder gods

here Gaea Oshtur & Set combind there power to banish chthon
just wanted to point out that gaea has banished dormammu on her own

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I'd just like to clarify it wasn't Zom himself that called the living tribunal forth, but rather his forelock being removed, which caused a mystical imbalance. That said, I do think Zom is the strongest.


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@ Colossus-Big C

Look closer at the picture. That as an ACTUAL manifestation of Chthon and it was Nagala, Ian, and that other chick using the artifacts to banish him. It wasn't Oshtur, Gaea, and Set vs Chthon.

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No the forelock was actually a sort of cloaking device powerful enough to mask his presence from a being as powerful as the Living Tribunal! Once the forelock was removed, the Tribunal became aware of him and that was that. Zom's mere existence in this realm is what caused the mystical imbalance.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/zom.htm


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Look closer at the picture. That as an ACTUAL manifestation of Chthon and it was Nagala, Ian, and that other chick using the artifacts to banish him. It wasn't Oshtur, Gaea, and Set vs Chthon.
they were using the courner stones of creation which has powered from gaea oshtur and set they were calling on them for power through the artifacts


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they were using the courner stones of creation which has powered from gaea oshtur and set they were calling on them for power through the artifacts


They're nothing but totems of these beings similar to the Ruby of Cyttorak, Wand of Watomb, and Eye of Aggamotto. Zopzop is right; Chthon faced fractions of these Elder God's powers, not the true beings themselves.

Zom's showing is less impressive then Shuma Gorath. SG killed Ancient One permanently unlike Zom. Strange struggled against SG's generals. Other than a few statements; Zom couldn't put Strange down,who had no prep at all.


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They're nothing but totems of these beings similar to the Ruby of Cyttorak, Wand of Watomb, and Eye of Aggamotto. Zopzop is right; Chthon faced fractions of these Elder God's powers, not the true beings themselves.

Zom's showing is less impressive then Shuma Gorath. SG killed Ancient One permanently unlike Zom. Strange struggled against SG's generals. Other than a few statements; Zom couldn't put Strange down,who had no prep at all.
who is the most powerful elder god?
also if it was just fractions of there power, how is it that galactus can be forcefully brought into agamottos realm just by using the eye of agamotto


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No the forelock was actually a sort of cloaking device powerful enough to mask his presence from a being as powerful as the Living Tribunal! Once the forelock was removed, the Tribunal became aware of him and that was that. Zom's mere existence in this realm is what caused the mystical imbalance.

No, that's simply wrong. Read the comics themselves.

LT: "Then, in severing Zom's forelock, you committed the second--the unpardonable sin! For, in so doing, you set free the forces of mystic anarchy--which now threaten to engulf us all!"

Strange Tales #158


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Classic Zom. Dr. Strange referred to him as the most powerful foe he ever fought.


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This is between Gorath and Chthon, I'd rate Chthon higher considering the battles against Strange.


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Classic Zom. Dr. Strange referred to him as the most powerful foe he ever fought.


When he hadn't even faced Shuma.

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This is between Gorath and Chthon, I'd rate Chthon higher considering the battles against Strange.
yea if your basing the battles strange had with each than yea i would rate chthon higher

strange battled shuma and defeated him in his realm, where strange nearly died just by simply being in chthons realm even after he puts up forcefields, he then focuses a pure noble soul blast at chthon which made chthon smack him out of his realm


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The Living Tribunal himself had to interfere to stop his rampage.


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