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Marvel heralds vs DC Heralds (Idea taken from Carver)

Thor
Silver Surfer
Beta Ray Bill
Nova Prime


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Orion
Infinity Man (Before Becoming New God Killer)
Yat the Ion
Maxima

There were other DC heralds but they kinda lack. Superman has too many to weaknesses magic and radiation. Wonder Woman can't breath in space for longer than a few minutes and only needs a good sharp Surfer Finger to the head and she is done. Martian Manhunter can be set on fire. Flash can't fly. Black Adam is just a brick. Etc.

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i wanna say DC win cuz Ion is more powerful than anyone on Marvel team..but i don't know how powerful Infinity Man and Maxima is..

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i wanna say DC win cuz Ion is more powerful than anyone on Marvel team..but i don't know how powerful Infinity Man and Maxima is..
Ion is really just Superman with a Green Lantern Ring. Not really more powerful than anyone on team 1

This page gives a good list of Maxima's powers and how she used them and what issues. http://www.comicvine.com/maxima/29-10034/

This one gives a good list of IM's powers

http://www.comicvine.com/infinity-man/29-27485/

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he did pretty well against superboy prime


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Ion is really just Superman with a Green Lantern Ring. Not really more powerful than anyone on team 1


a powerful GL can compete with anyone on team 1..a Supes with GL ring will beat anyone..and Yat have Ion to further enhance everything he got..i'll give him the win against anyone on team 1..

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a powerful GL can compete with anyone on team 1..a Supes with GL ring will beat anyone..and Yat have Ion to further enhance everything he got..i'll give him the win against anyone on team 1..

Silver Surfer Beats any GL or Superman. So Superman with a GL ring would just be able to compete with Surfer. Thor is more powerful than Surfer, Superman, or any GL. And Yat with Ion had superior durability to be SBP's Punching bag. Nothing more.

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-Maxima is a woman... She's out immediately. 'Nuff said.
-Orion is tough, but he can't compete with the sheer versatility, speed, and exotic powers team Marvel brings to the table. He's out shortly after.
-Yat has the potential to do some damage, but I certainly wouldn't put him above someone like Surfer. He's the next to go.
-That leaves the most powerful character on team DC -- arguably the most powerful single being on the field: Infinity Man. However, even he can't combat the Marvel team all by his lonesome.

That said, Marvel [still] wins, imo.

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i wanna say DC win cuz Ion is more powerful than anyone on Marvel team..but i don't know how powerful Infinity Man and Maxima is..
If you're curious about IM's abilities, this respect thread I made contains pretty much all of his feats:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t501611.html


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-Maxima is a woman... She's out immediately. 'Nuff said.
-Orion is tough, but he can't compete with the sheer versatility, speed, and exotic powers team Marvel brings to the table. He's out shortly after.
-Yat has the potential to do some damage, but I certainly wouldn't put him above someone like Surfer. He's the next to go.
-That leaves the most powerful character on team DC -- arguably the most powerful single being on the field: Infinity Man. However, even he can't combat the Marvel team all by his lonesome.

That said, Marvel [still] wins, imo.
Did you see my link on Maxima? She has more powers than anyone on the field. And she uses them all at Superman level. She can even make duplicates of herself all with her powers. And Orion can do anything Thor can do. Plus Orion is tuffer than BRB and Nova.

Yat Sucks. But he is Superman with a ring. So meh. I say it's a tie.

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Silver Surfer Beats any GL or Superman. So Superman with a GL ring would just be able to compete with Surfer. Thor is more powerful than Surfer, Superman, or any GL. And Yat with Ion had superior durability to be SBP's Punching bag. Nothing more.


Surfer can beat anyone..yes..but not easily..and Thor is not more powerful than Surfer..Surfer is the biggest threat from team 1..u can say whatever u want..i won't change my opinion..a talented GL like Yat with daxamite ability and Ion within him is above high herald..no one from team 1 can beat him..

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Did you see my link on Maxima? She has more powers than anyone on the field. And she uses them all at Superman level. She can even make duplicates of herself all with her powers. And Orion can do anything Thor can do. Plus Orion is tuffer than BRB and Nova.

Yat Sucks. But he is Superman with a ring. So meh. I say it's a tie.
Maxima was tooled by DoS Doomsday. I'm not as ready to toot her horn as you seem to be.

Standard Orion cannot do anything Thor/BRB can do.

Yat does suck. thumb up


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Maxima was tooled by DoS Doomsday. I'm not as ready to toot her horn as you seem to be.

Standard Orion cannot do anything Thor/BRB can do.

Yat does suck. thumb up

Maxima was the only one who was able to hurt Doomsday besides Superman. Plus Maxima kept up with the power upgrades. When Superman got more powerful, she was still able to hang with him in speed and strength. She punked PG. Maxima can make duplicates of her self and muck with BRB or Nova easily.

And Orion can do pretty much everything Thor can. Hell BRB isn't that versatile. Orion is waaaaay faster, waaaay more blastier, and even stronger than BRB. Orion is as strong as Superman. Neither Thor or BRB are. I agree Surfer does beat Orion, but it would be like a fight against Morg. It would take a good long while.

Yat Still sucks but so does Nova Prime.

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Yat Still sucks but so does Nova Prime.


Rich doesn't suck. Not by a longshot. He's one of the better HHs in Marvel right now.


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Rich doesn't suck. Not by a longshot. He's one of the better HHs in Marvel right now.
He was better as a New Warrior. No one can ever be better than the Core 7. Surfer, Thor, Quasar, Dr. Strange, Gladiator, BRB, and Adam Warlock.

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i wanna say DC win cuz Ion is more powerful than anyone on Marvel team..but i don't know how powerful Infinity Man and Maxima is..


Maxima's around Wonder Woman's level.

Infinity Man is Darkseid's brother with power to match, stronger than any of the NG save maybe Darkseid and Highfather.

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Ion is really just Superman with a Green Lantern Ring. Not really more powerful than anyone on team 1


A bit more than that, the Ion critter amps his ring.


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Maxima was the only one who was able to hurt Doomsday besides Superman. Plus Maxima kept up with the power upgrades. When Superman got more powerful, she was still able to hang with him in speed and strength. She punked PG. Maxima can make duplicates of her self and muck with BRB or Nova easily.

And Orion can do pretty much everything Thor can. Hell BRB isn't that versatile. Orion is waaaaay faster, waaaay more blastier, and even stronger than BRB. Orion is as strong as Superman. Neither Thor or BRB are. I agree Surfer does beat Orion, but it would be like a fight against Morg. It would take a good long while.

Yat Still sucks but so does Nova Prime.
Maxima is a solid mid-herald, but she cannot compete with team Marvel. One blitz from Surfer, or hammer-strike from Thor/BRB and she's out. Sorry, but I'm not buying into your wanking.

BRB not as versatile as Orion? Orion is consistently portrayed as a brawler, who almost never uses any kind of versatility to his advantage. Bill at least uses shielding/absorption/blasts, in conjunction with physical attacks against his opponents.

As for strength: Bill has busted planetoids and cracked Galactus' armor with Stormbreaker... He's also slapped around B&T Thor (who possessed sufficient power to 3-shot Surfer), along with a host of others. To say he isn't as strong/stronger than Orion is to blatantly ignore his feats.


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Maxima is a solid mid-herald, but she cannot compete with team Marvel. One blitz from Surfer, or hammer-strike from Thor/BRB and she's out. Sorry, but I'm not buying into your wanking.

BRB not as versatile as Orion? Orion is consistently portrayed as a brawler, who almost never uses any kind of versatility to his advantage. Bill at least uses shielding/absorption/blasts against his opponents, in conjunction with physical attacks.

As for strength: Bill has busted planetoids and cracked Galactus' armor with Stormbreaker... He's also slapped around B&T Thor (who possessed sufficient power to 3-shot Surfer), along with a host of others. To say he isn't as strong/stronger than Orion is to blatantly ignore his feats.


Maxima has reacted to a blitz from Superman. I doubt anyone on team two is going to blitz her. And what makes you think Surfer would get past IM or YAT? A hammer Strike from Thor or BRB isn't going to get to her. She's going to have her shields up. Plus Maxima is a Ferro kinetic. Thor's hammer has been manipulated by Ferro's before. Between her Magnetism, TK, and Energy shields, no one is going to be one shotting her. Plus she's also nearly as Dense as a Kryptonian.

Oh and Orion is versatile when he needs to be. Most of the time, he's just tuffer than his opponents. Of course, his mother box can absorb most of BRB's blast, or Orion himself can simply control the energies and send them back. Orion Beats BRB all day every day. And what does Bill cracking Galactus's armor with Storm Breaker have to do with anything? That isn't his strength. That is like me saying Orion hurt the cosmic being Starro with his AF. Not his strength. Oh and Orion is Superman's exact match in strength. BRB is not. So yeah, Orion is stronger than BRB.

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He was better as a New Warrior. No one can ever be better than the Core 7. Surfer, Thor, Quasar, Dr. Strange, Gladiator, BRB, and Adam Warlock.


'Core 7'? Jesus no one thinks about all 7 of those when thinking of Marvel High Heralds. Other than Surfer and Thor, none of those guys are anywhere close to mainstream.

They think of Thor, Silver Surfer, and Hulk.

Nova is far more powerful these days, and he could take at the very least a few wins from anybody there.


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'Core 7'? Jesus no one thinks about all 7 of those when thinking of Marvel High Heralds. Other than Surfer and Thor, none of those guys are anywhere close to mainstream.

They think of Thor, Silver Surfer, and Hulk.

Nova is far more powerful these days, and he could take at the very least a few wins from anybody there.

Hulk sucks. That is all.

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Maxima has reacted to a blitz from Superman. I doubt anyone on team two is going to blitz her. And what makes you think Surfer would get past IM or YAT? A hammer Strike from Thor or BRB isn't going to get to her. She's going to have her shields up. Plus Maxima is a Ferro kinetic. Thor's hammer has been manipulated by Ferro's before. Between her Magnetism, TK, and Energy shields, no one is going to be one shotting her. Plus she's also nearly as Dense as a Kryptonian.

Oh and Orion is versatile when he needs to be. Most of the time, he's just tuffer than his opponents. Of course, his mother box can absorb most of BRB's blast, or Orion himself can simply control the energies and send them back. Orion Beats BRB all day every day. And what does Bill cracking Galactus's armor with Storm Breaker have to do with anything? That isn't his strength. That is like me saying Orion hurt the cosmic being Starro with his AF. Not his strength. Oh and Orion is Superman's exact match in strength. BRB is not. So yeah, Orion is stronger than BRB.
Ah, so Maxima is on par with Thor, and Orion can control the energies of Bill's hammer and then proceed to physically pummel him?

Yeeeeah, I think that's my cue to stop debating with you. smile


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Hulk sucks. That is all.


As you can see by my sig, I don't like him either.

But credit where credit is due.

He is 'the man' in Marvel.


I think I'm gonna hurl. sick


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