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Originally posted by Uriel005
Karate Kid 5/10 unless Bruce and IF are going to team up. IF takes this 3/10 Bruce 2/10. I'm assuming the batkick is a power.

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Originally posted by tideoftime
If you are trying to gauge relative skill, it gets tricky, because where IF's more blatant abilities are clearly more "power-based" as opposed to skill/finesse-based, it has to be kept in mind that KK's abilities/skills are, even conservatively speaking, meta/"somethin's up" in nature -- not necessarily in terms of being proper "powers", on the low-end, but rather that his applied skill is so near off-the-chart, his fighting is less like a skill and more like a power, contextually.

In anycase, removing IF's more active abilities sets him back in a way that wouldn't, by relation, happen to BM. Given that concept, and still allowing KK's weirdly uber Martial Arts "power", then it would be:

Karate Kid
Batman/Iron Fist in a close tie.

IF with his powers would, of course, beat Batman *sans* Batkick/weapons, and with his active powers, he'd give Val a run for his money. But in terms of applied skills, KK wins the majority here.