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black adam(ww 3) vs orion(at his best)

two men enter and one man leaves. to the utter death. who comes out on top?

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no mother box could heal orion after ba was done with him.


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A motherbox can heal someone from ashes and raise the dead. So, you must mean "Nothing Black Adam could do would be too much for the mother box to heal.".

Other than punching and superspeed, BA doesn't seem to bring much to the table.


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A motherbox can heal someone from ashes and raise the dead. So, you must mean "Nothing Black Adam could do would be too much for the mother box to heal.".

Other than punching and superspeed, BA doesn't seem to bring much to the table.
his punches pack a whallop. sorry but orion would get smoked. ba pawned hero after heo in ww 3. orion loses to hand waves from ds. orion would fight back and make it kinda good but soon as black adam wanted to he would end orion.

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I think Orion could take a majority if he's at his best.

Orion 7/10


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I think Orion could take a majority if he's at his best.

Orion 7/10
orion can hang with ba but at his best is he really comparable to black adam. black adam is ruthless and has been show to deal with the likes of mulitple heroes at once. black adam is just simply more dangerous.

orion lost with the ale before to ds. he was outsmarted. to lose with the ale takes some skill. laughing

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orion can hang with ba but at his best is he really comparable to black adam. black adam is ruthless and has been show to deal with the likes of mulitple heroes at once. black adam is just simply more dangerous.

orion lost with the ale before to ds. he was outsmarted. to lose with the ale takes some skill. laughing


Yet another post by Quanchi that shows how little he knows about some seminal DC characters. Let's have a look at your post:

i) You claim that Orion is comparable to BA. Wrong! Orion is a new God, the son of Darkseid, who was sent to New Genesis. Black Adam is a human being who was given the power attributes of 6 ancient deities (e.g. speed of Heru, power of Aton). He is basically a human being granted a boon ...in this case the boon is aspects of power from 6 deities when he utters the word Shazam. Orion has not been granted a boon ....he is a god.

ii) You claim that Black Adam is ruthless. My response is so bloody what! Orion is beyond ruthless ....his nickname is the 'Dog of War' because of his rage, bloodthirst in battle, and the carnage caused when he fights. He is the offspring of Darkseid ....he may be living in New Genesis, but he is Darkseid's son. Orion is actually so potentially ruthless that it is listed as one of his weaknesses ....he has to control himself otherwise his rage will just consume him and turn him into a one-being engine of destruction! So what if Black Adam has a mean streak? It is like comparing a Kawasaki motorbike to a jet fighter, and saying that the bike would win because it has an 'engine.' What is the jet fighter being powered by .....pixie dust?

iii) You claim that Black Adam has been able to defeat 'multiple enemies at once.' You are doutblessly referring to WW3 where BA takes down a bunch of heroes by himself. Nice arc by the way. But totally moot! Especially against Orion ....a being that has taken down entire SECTORS of the Universe by himself. A being whose warfare causes extreme casualties. And you match that against Black Adam, whose greatest feat is taking down a group of Earth-bound heroes! Silly.

Anyways, Black Adam is the $h!t. He is a cool character who can dismantle a lot of people, and he also happens to be one of my favorite characters.
However he is not in the same league as a sun-dipped Superman (in reference to your other thread), or to Orion.

Either of them would totally tear apart Black Adam, and either of them could destroy the same heroes BA took down in far LESS time. If Orion let lose his rage he could possibly destroy the entire sector that Earth is in .....that is what he does when he lets his rage get beyond his New Genesis teachings.

Yet you compare him with Black Adam.

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Quanchi, did you see what kind of people Black adam were fighting? I don't think beating Atom Smasher, Terra and Frankenstein JR is a feat that puts him on level with Orion.


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Yet another post by Quanchi that shows how little he knows about some seminal DC characters. Let's have a look at your post:

i) You claim that Orion is comparable to BA. Wrong! Orion is a new God, the son of Darkseid, who was sent to New Genesis. Black Adam is a human being who was given the power attributes of 6 ancient deities (e.g. speed of Heru, power of Aton). He is basically a human being granted a boon ...in this case the boon is aspects of power from 6 deities when he utters the word Shazam. Orion has not been granted a boon ....he is a god.

ii) You claim that Black Adam is ruthless. My response is so bloody what! Orion is beyond ruthless ....his nickname is the 'Dog of War' because of his rage, bloodthirst in battle, and the carnage caused when he fights. He is the offspring of Darkseid ....he may be living in New Genesis, but he is Darkseid's son. Orion is actually so potentially ruthless that it is listed as one of his weaknesses ....he has to control himself otherwise his rage will just consume him and turn him into a one-being engine of destruction! So what if Black Adam has a mean streak? It is like comparing a Kawasaki motorbike to a jet fighter, and saying that the bike would win because it has an 'engine.' What is the jet fighter being powered by .....pixie dust?

iii) You claim that Black Adam has been able to defeat 'multiple enemies at once.' You are doutblessly referring to WW3 where BA takes down a bunch of heroes by himself. Nice arc by the way. But totally moot! Especially against Orion ....a being that has taken down entire SECTORS of the Universe by himself. A being whose warfare causes extreme casualties. And you match that against Black Adam, whose greatest feat is taking down a group of Earth-bound heroes! Silly.

Anyways, Black Adam is the $h!t. He is a cool character who can dismantle a lot of people, and he also happens to be one of my favorite characters.
However he is not in the same league as a sun-dipped Superman (in reference to your other thread), or to Orion.

Either of them would totally tear apart Black Adam, and either of them could destroy the same heroes BA took down in far LESS time. If Orion let lose his rage he could possibly destroy the entire sector that Earth is in .....that is what he does when he lets his rage get beyond his New Genesis teachings.

Yet you compare him with Black Adam.

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Quanchi, did you see what kind of people Black adam were fighting? I don't think beating Atom Smasher, Terra and Frankenstein JR is a feat that puts him on level with Orion.
is that all he was fighting? nope, not even close. he put down mm and gave him a free pass. he told him next time theymeet it would be far worse. ww 3 was an impressive showing i love how people try to downplay it.

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Originally posted by spetznaz
Yet another post by Quanchi that shows how little he knows about some seminal DC characters. Let's have a look at your post:

i) You claim that Orion is comparable to BA. Wrong! Orion is a new God, the son of Darkseid, who was sent to New Genesis. Black Adam is a human being who was given the power attributes of 6 ancient deities (e.g. speed of Heru, power of Aton). He is basically a human being granted a boon ...in this case the boon is aspects of power from 6 deities when he utters the word Shazam. Orion has not been granted a boon ....he is a god.

ii) You claim that Black Adam is ruthless. My response is so bloody what! Orion is beyond ruthless ....his nickname is the 'Dog of War' because of his rage, bloodthirst in battle, and the carnage caused when he fights. He is the offspring of Darkseid ....he may be living in New Genesis, but he is Darkseid's son. Orion is actually so potentially ruthless that it is listed as one of his weaknesses ....he has to control himself otherwise his rage will just consume him and turn him into a one-being engine of destruction! So what if Black Adam has a mean streak? It is like comparing a Kawasaki motorbike to a jet fighter, and saying that the bike would win because it has an 'engine.' What is the jet fighter being powered by .....pixie dust?

iii) You claim that Black Adam has been able to defeat 'multiple enemies at once.' You are doutblessly referring to WW3 where BA takes down a bunch of heroes by himself. Nice arc by the way. But totally moot! Especially against Orion ....a being that has taken down entire SECTORS of the Universe by himself. A being whose warfare causes extreme casualties. And you match that against Black Adam, whose greatest feat is taking down a group of Earth-bound heroes! Silly.

Anyways, Black Adam is the $h!t. He is a cool character who can dismantle a lot of people, and he also happens to be one of my favorite characters.
However he is not in the same league as a sun-dipped Superman (in reference to your other thread), or to Orion.

Either of them would totally tear apart Black Adam, and either of them could destroy the same heroes BA took down in far LESS time. If Orion let lose his rage he could possibly destroy the entire sector that Earth is in .....that is what he does when he lets his rage get beyond his New Genesis teachings.

Yet you compare him with Black Adam.

Advice: Stick to Spiderman and Wolverine.
its funny how most of your posts explain things that everyone knows. laughing
ur other post went into vivid detail about kmc forum rules. laughing
its quite clear ur another new gods junkie and give them far more credit than they deserve.

im talking about the orion who has to work to get himself out of a titanium box? im talking about an orion who loses to a handwave by darkseid. orion is slated to kill darksied. whoopty doo. fate has him killing ds and to me he hasnt earned it by any means. new gods arent anywhere near as powerful as their fans believe so. especially orion. he can compete and is powerful but no way is he destroying black adam. i saw orion lose with the ale. laughing

again show me on panel proof of orion doing something amazing to multilpe foes at once. oh and those weak parademons on darkseids planets dont count.


laughing black adam layeth the smackdown on the dog of war.it would take more than a hand wave but orion would get slaughtered if black adam were in ww 3 mode.

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Orion with one Universal galaxy blasting AF blast.


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Orion with one Universal galaxy blasting AF blast.
why did he struggle to get out of the box then. why do hand gestures beat him. that is so weak it isnt even funny. laughing

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why did he struggle to get out of the box then. why do hand gestures beat him. that is so weak it isnt even funny. laughing

Um it's obvious you dont know about Orion or Firestorm. So I'll just let you be.


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Um it's obvious you dont know about Orion or Firestorm. So I'll just let you be.
i have orions whole run here. and lots of new gods stuff. its funny when i give u on panel proof. u say nothing in return. becuz i always call u on ur lack of knowledge. orion failed with the ale. how bad to u have to be to fail there. laughing

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i have orions whole run here. and lots of new gods stuff. its funny when i give u on panel proof. u say nothing in return. becuz i always call u on ur lack of knowledge. orion failed with the ale. how bad to u have to be to fail there. laughing

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its funny how most of your posts explain things that everyone knows.

I actually agree with you ....most (if not all) of my posts always state things that most people know. The only problem is that there are always some people out there who do not ....in this particular case, you! In the past I have posted on threads where some people believed Wolverine could defeat Superman/Thor/WonderWoman. Now, EVERYONE knows that is not the case, but there were still a couple who believed so.

Same thing here ....EVERYONE (who reads comics) knows that Black Adam is not even a gnat compared to Orion, but then we have you starting a thread asking if Black Adam could defeat Orion (and then adding 'at his best').


its quite clear ur another new gods junkie and give them far more credit than they deserve.

New Gods are not unbeatable ....but that does not mean all and sundry can defeat them. Definitely not Black Adam.

im talking about an orion who loses to a handwave by darkseid.

This is just another example of how atrophied your logic is. You use Orion vs Darkseid to show how Black Adam can defeat Orion? That is just sheer lunacy. Now, if Black Adam could go and defeat Darkseid then you would have a point. But he simply cannot. It is like me claiming to be able to defeat a T-72 tank with a peashooter because T-72s were being destroyed by M1A1 Abrams tanks during the First Gulf War.

whoopty doo. fate has him killing ds and to me he hasnt earned it by any means.

Thank goodness your opinion is not worth much on KMC (from what I gather people think you are ....what did that one poster say .....'silly'), and worth even less to the writers at DC.


he can compete and is powerful but no way is he destroying black adam.

He destroys BA easily. Black Adam is a really potent character, and he is the cat's miaow, but apparently he has developed a weird level of fan support on KMC. He is really amazing, but when people like Quanchi start matching him up against Orion and a Sun-dipped Superman then we have a problem.

By the way Quanchi, talking about Sun-dipped Supes, I was looking for you on the other thread and I couldn't find you. Whereya go .......



i saw orion lose with the ale.

Show me. Don't even give me a scan ....give me the issue number and I'll have it by day's end!
Why?
Because what I remember is that Orion REFUSED to use the ALE and went after Darkseid without it. Orion refused to use it because he wanted to fulfil his destiny unaided! And he defeated Darkseid without the ALE.

Thus I am curious what issue you were reading where Orion used the ALE against Darkseid, and lost.

I could ask for a scan but I am certain it does not exist. Thus I ask for an issue number, so that should give you time to call DC and have them print an issue that has Orion losing to Darkseid even when he is using the ALE.

Now, I may be wrong and such an issue does indeed exist, in whcih case mea culpa. But if it does I am sure it shouldn't be too much of a problem to give me an issue number as to when Orion used the ALE against Darkseid and was defeated with a , how did you put it, a 'handwave from Darkseid.'

I call Bull.


again show me on panel proof of orion doing something amazing to multilpe foes at once. oh and those weak parademons on darkseids planets dont count.

Actually a parademon is more powerful than most of the heroes that Black Adam took down in WW3. The only ones of any merit were Alan, Jonn, and John. The rest were nothing to write home about.


laughing black adam layeth the smackdown on the dog of war.it would take more than a hand wave but orion would get slaughtered if black adam were in ww 3 mode.

You can put as many ' big grin ' as you may, but it still remains that your logic is not sound. And it is not me saying this ...I only came back to KMC yesterday, but looking at your other posts it appears many other posters view you as another silly poster. Which is alright, by the way. It is just much better when posters know something about the characters they are talking about ....you definitely do not know squat about DC characters.

If you did you would know that for all the strength that Black Adam possesses he is not a match for Orion, and not a match for a Sun-Dipped Superman.

It is really that simple.

As I said before ....stick to Wolverine and Spiderman.


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Hey Spetnaz, didn't you hear? Quanchi said that Thanos and Power Gem Thor could solo the LSH. And that Thanos w/e the IG could beat Spectre.


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Hey Spetnaz, didn't you hear? Quanchi said that Thanos and Power Gem Thor could solo the LSH. And that Thanos w/e the IG could beat Spectre.
thanos with the ig would crush the spctre. spectre has been caged and he has been utterly decimated by cap marvel amped up. thanos would crush cap marvel amped up.

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thanos with the ig would crush the spctre. spectre has been caged and he has been utterly decimated by cap marvel amped up. thanos would crush cap marvel amped up.


um, the spectre that was fighting captain marvel, was hostless right? And Who caged the Spetre? We are talking about mxy's power, who would have no problem beating the crap out of ANY ig wielder. Spectre wasn't beaten. he was caged.


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