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Who is most evil?

Who is the most evil villain in DC or Marvel and please briefly explain why?


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Darkseid for DC. His primary goal in life is to obtain the Anti-Life Equation and subjugate all life across the universe. He wants to eradicate free will (and imagination) and force all whom live to worship him. He doesn't justify his plans with nobility or skewed reasoning such as the universe would be much better off with him in control. He knows it's evil and repugnant and accepts and embraces that. He doesn't even always destroy those who piss him, but instead keep them alive for torture, or kill them just to bring them back to life.

For Marvel, it's a bit more dicey. Conventionally, I'd say Mephisto due to what he represents, but he doesn't have the aspirations of Darkseid.


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Superman. Look how many people hate him in universe, and in real life. You have to be a sick son of a whore to garner that much hate.

Wolverine. Same thing, but with more sword fingers.


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Superman. Look how many people hate him in universe, and in real life. You have to be a sick son of a whore to garner that much hate.

Wolverine. Same thing, but with more sword fingers.



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Darkseid for DC. His primary goal in life is to obtain the Anti-Life Equation and subjugate all life across the universe. He wants to eradicate free will (and imagination) and force all whom live to worship him. He doesn't justify his plans with nobility or skewed reasoning such as the universe would be much better off with him in control. He knows it's evil and repugnant and accepts and embraces that. He doesn't even always destroy those who piss him, but instead keep them alive for torture, or kill them just to bring them back to life.

For Marvel, it's a bit more dicey. Conventionally, I'd say Mephisto due to what he represents, but he doesn't have the aspirations of Darkseid.
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Jake, do you honestly see Darkseid as being the most evil character over a Neron type ?


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Jake, do you honestly see Darkseid as being the most evil character over a Neron type ?


Yeah, I do.


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Darkseid for DC. His primary goal in life is to obtain the Anti-Life Equation and subjugate all life across the universe. He wants to eradicate free will (and imagination) and force all whom live to worship him. He doesn't justify his plans with nobility or skewed reasoning such as the universe would be much better off with him in control. He knows it's evil and repugnant and accepts and embraces that. He doesn't even always destroy those who piss him, but instead keep them alive for torture, or kill them just to bring them back to life.

For Marvel, it's a bit more dicey. Conventionally, I'd say Mephisto due to what he represents, but he doesn't have the aspirations of Darkseid.


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Yeah, I do.
I don't think he's even close. Only some writers(Kirby who created the character) have used him as the god of evil while kirby just portrayed him as a dictator who felt what he did was justified.

Most of Darkseid's portrayals don't have him evil for evil's sake just Morrison off the top of my head. Neron is consistently evil.


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I don't think he's even close. Only some writers have used him as the god of evil kirby just portrayed him as a dictator who felt what he did was justified.

Most of Darkseid's portrayals don't have him evil for evil's sake just Morrison off the top of my head. Neron is consistently evil.


I think Darkseid's goals and motivation and what he ultimately seeks to achieve is profoundly more evil than a devil type character seeking to corrupt and steal souls.

He wants complete and utter dominion over all life everywhere and for all to worship him fanatically. It's like slavery on a spiritual and mental level the likes of which are much more potent than simply owning a soul. And he would see everyone and everything destroyed if he was to lose that power.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, which I respect.


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I think Darkseid's goals and motivation and what he ultimately seeks to achieve is profoundly more evil than a devil type character seeking to corrupt and steal souls.

He wants complete and utter dominion over all life everywhere and for all to worship him fanatically. It's like slavery on a spiritual and mental level the likes of which are much more potent than simply owning a soul. And he would see everyone and everything destroyed if he was to lose that power.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, which I respect.
Yes, I respect yours as well and don't attack your difference of opinion as I would most others.

To me Darkseid's goals are much grander but he isn't more evil. Neron screwed over Asmodel just to screw him over. He's a sick evil bastard. I think Mephisto and Neron always take this home as they are evil incarnate and have been consistently been portrayed as such. The evil god nonsense is a Morrison thing and is a direct contradiction to Kirby.

But to each his own. I guess we agree to disagree.


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Nah, f*ck dat. I don't respect his opinion.


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Well, Doom skinned the only women he ever loved and wore her skin...so I say Wolverine like bran suggested.


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Marvel-Void, when he said he was galactus it was plain badass...

DC.Joker his insanity will kill TOAA


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Marvel-Void, when he said he was galactus it was plain badass...

DC.Joker his insanity will kill TOAA


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