Not really, Diana has good odds against the team. She fought multiple teams of hero's and villians who were more powerful than these three combine.
In Greg Rucka's run, Diana held her own against the Justice League while blind. Sure, they weren't going all out. But, she proved that she's more than a match for all of them combine. During, their brief stunt Black Canary was using her cry, while the Martian, Plasticman and Flash were trying to over power her. Eventually, Diana broke loose and went at it with the league.
Diana has the speed to out perform the trio. She's proven to be a match for speedsters on multiple occasions. In The Justice League Hypotetical Woman: Flash was blitzing Wonder Woman, up until she let loose. She was able to land a blow which took him out eventually. In Greg Ruckas run, written by both Greg and Geoff Johns Diana was able to get the better of Zoom while blinded. Zoom was toying with Diana, but nevertheless she held her own against the mad speedster, who was said to hit just as hard as Superman. Then their's the Amazo incident. She was able to blitz him, when he had the combine speed of Flash, Martian, Superman and her own. Let's not forget that Cheetah, is a speedster on her own right.
Strength - Diana overpowers each of them individualy. In the Omac Project, she took punches from an enraged Superman who taught she was Doomsday. At that time, she wasn't going all out.
Before that, WW held her own against a cloned Doomsday who was said to be more powerful than the first. Eventually, she overpowered him with the aid of Hercules after a tough battle.
With her combine strenght, trinkets and speed Diana can take the slight majority from the team. She can lasso her toughtest opponent and then duke it out with the other two. From what I've read, Ms. Marvel hasn't impressived me much so she'll be the first to go. Namor is perhaps, the toughtest oppent, but once again she'll lasso him from the start. Then it'll be her vs. Wonderman, who pales in comparison to her.
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Don't try to teach me on wonder woman, ok. I know what she's capable off, but team takes the majority. Namor has tangled with almost every powerhouse on marvel earth from hulk, thor, surfer, sentry, hercules and has always managed to hold his own. Simon is no pushover either and carol can seduce diana. Team 6/10.
Great counter argument. If it were Superman against these three, you'd give him the high majority. Say's much about your debating skills.
I'm sure your knowledgeable based on the Wonder Woman scans you've read.
How, if Diana if fighting to the best of her abilities? She's better than they are in the strength, speed and durability department. Add her trinkets which are one hit wonder and she takes the slight majority from the team. Her Tiara can decapitate any of them. Her bracelts can deflect anything they throw at her, or she can simple use her lighting to zap them.
That's because it depends on the circumstances. If she's fighting to the best of her abilities, then she can pull 6-7/10. If they were fighting in character, the team would take the high mayority. Anyway, I'd give the same odds to Superman or Thor. I'm an avid Wonder Woman fan, so I'm pretty knowledgeable on the character. I follow her, Superman and Hal the most.
I'm not the biggest Wonder Woman expert but I do believe Superman/Thor > Wonder Woman, but while she does have good reaction feats I've never seen anything with her being an actually speedster herself. While she has some very great weapons tehy're mostly close range, plus I could Ionic Wonder man possibly give her problems although she is magical.
I don't know who I would give the majority to but I definitely think the team could beat her for at least some.
I don't see the team beating Superman or Thor though.
Nice try kid, but I have read every WW comics after crisis so don't try to tell me what I have or haven't read. I only debate what I've read unlike you. Superman is above WW in power last I checked.
Not by a lot, though. They have fought often, and the two most common results are either (1) stalemate with neither hurt, if both are holding back, or (2) bloody on both sides if they're going at it for real.
That it's 'stronger, but close' is pretty explicit.
Also, Wondy is a quite good tactician. She's good at reducing the advantages of a group while applying her own strengths. WW'd go for the weak link (Carol), get the enemies to get in each other's way, use the lasso to tie them up, etc., so a vs group fight plays to her strengths fairly well.
I'd put Superman over Thor and Wonder Woman. However, each character has an advantage over the other. As far as WW vs. Thor, it's debatable. But, *cough* *cough*, the blond is going down.
I'm not an avid Thor fan, but from what I've read I place him and Diana in the same category.
Diana has tagged speedsters on multiple occasions. It's been shown or stated on panel in Final Crisis, Justice League, Wonder Woman etc... She's often downgraded, because one she's a female and two most people don't read her comics. I've collected almost evertything she's been a mayor part of after Post Crisis. Clark, Diana and Hal are my trinity because of the Superfriends.
Anyway, as mentioned before, Diana has great reaction feats. She has stoped Zoom, Wally and Cheetah on more than one occasion. She knock Wally, when he was attacking her head on. Back then, Wally was being mind controlled, by Amazo. The theirs the Zoom incident when she was blind. She held her own against the mad speedster, and eventually took him out.
- Both, Barry and Wally have been impressed by her sheer speed.
- When Grant Morrison wrote the Justice League, Diana and Clark attacked The General at Supersonic speeds.
- Diana was able to lasso Amazo, when he had the combine speed of Wally West, John Jonzz, Superman and her own.
- She flew from Canada to Washington DC in seconds.
- The Martian connected the minds of Wally, Clark and Diana's to plot an attack against the Androids who invaded Adam Strange home. (Grant Morrisons Justice League) John stated that they could process and think faster than sound. I might be mistaken, haven't read that story arc in a while.
As far as her weapons: The Tiara can decapite her opponent and her vambraces release Zeus lighting. She's used them offensively on more than one occasion. The Tiara wounded Superman badly in the OMAC Project and the lighting turn an Android into pieces and harm a goddess.
I'm sure that I'm missing a-lot of information, I'd have to reread everything I own of her.
If your interested, I can reccomend some highly impressive trades with feats written by Gail Simone and Greg Rucka. --> The Rise of the Olympian and Land of the Dead.
How old are you? Like, ten. But, seriously, for being an avid Wonder Woman fan you sure know a-lot about her.
I never said she was above Superman. Trust me, most of the trades and individual issues I own are of him. Each is capable of taking out one another. They each have their own advantages.
If you were an avid Wonder Woman reader, you'd note that she's dealt with multiple teams of villains and heros: The Justice League, White Martians and her own villans who were all more powerful than Namor, Carol and Simon.
Wonder woman is a peer of superman only in her own comic, in his own comic and majority of JLA appearances there are only two peers of kal :Orion and Captain marvel.
The same martians who oneshotted her once and drowning her again untill kal saved her. That's going by just high end feats. Namor has oneshotted hulk and BRB, simon has koed classic abomination and is "almost as strong as thor".
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Lawls, at the scan you provided. Did you read Final Crisis? Diana was poison by Mary Marvel, which allowed the Anti-Life Equation to take complete control over her. She wasn't sane, therefore wasn't fighting to the best of her abilities. Thanks for making me laugh.
In Superman's run written by Brian Azarallo, Diana and Clark were doing well against each other. Clark didn't dominate her there, nor did he dominate her in the OMAC Project. She held her own against an enraged Superman. Try again friend. Also, don't bring Captain Marvel or Orion into play, because Hippoylta has alread made Orion bleed, and Diana is >> Polly.
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk.. It was PIS. Diana has the ability to see past illusions. It's been shown on panel before. You as a Wonder Woman reader, should've known.
Also, she was strugglin in the water because she was blind sided by the Martians. Diana taught the person drowing was either Wally or Plasticman. I can't remember off the top of my head. But, the whole point is that she went to save him. Anyway, later on the League faced the Martians head on. She held her own against two or three. So try again friend, and don't forget context.
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