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TheLordofMurder
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What tier does current Thanos belong in?

I ask this question because some here seem to think he is Abstract level and capable of beating anyone beneath Death, while some here like myself feel that he is High Trans to (at best) Low Skyfather...

So, where do you all feel current Thanos tiers at?


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No one thinks he's Abstract. He's high trans-low skyfather.


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Originally posted by Nihilist
He's high trans-low skyfather.


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Originally posted by Nihilist
No one thinks he's Abstract. He's high trans-low skyfather.


Some here think so...

Zopzop thinks Thanos can beat someone who can one-shot-kill Abstracts and destroy Celestials simply by willing it to happen...

Quanchi shares that point of view...


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He's not abstract level definitely. He's a few levels lower than someone in the skyfather level. However i think he is skyfather comparable durability-wise. He can shrug most attacks unless some random Drax shoves his fist at his chest(don't think it'll work now that Death is once again shunning him).

If I were to categorize him, I'd reckon around highest possible tier attainable by a herald.


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He's a solid Skyfather.


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high trans.....low sky, which is where he's always been


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No way he's only low-skyfather now.

Not after he matched Odin for a few moves before Gungir was brought out, and after Odin specifically said Thanos' power potential was similar to his.

And that was before his recent jump in TI.


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Below skyfather.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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No way he's only low-skyfather now.

Not after he matched Odin for a few moves before Gungir was brought out, and after Odin specifically said Thanos' power potential was similar to his.

And that was before his recent jump in TI.


He didn't match Odin, he just had the durability needed to take a couple hits.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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He's high trans-low skyfather.


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Yes he did.

Neither could hurt the other prior to Gungnir, and the middle part of the fight was them trading moves.

I also see you cannot deny that Odin specifically on panel said Thanos' reserve of power was comparable to his own.

There's no way you can interpret that fight as it merely being Thanos' durability that kept him in it. Not without twisted bias.

He was already at least low-skyfather back then.


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Definitely NOT skyfather. Very high herald level, yes, but not skyfather, not even a small one.


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Yes he did.

Neither could hurt the other prior to Gungnir, and the middle part of the fight was them trading moves.

I also see you cannot deny that Odin specifically on panel said Thanos' reserve of power was comparable to his own.

There's no way you can interpret that fight as it merely being Thanos' durability that kept him alive. Impossible.

He was already at least low-skyfather back then.


At no point did Thanos match Odin, he just had the durability to take a couple of hits.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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No way he's only low-skyfather now.

Not after he matched Odin for a few moves before Gungir was brought out, and after Odin specifically said Thanos' power potential was similar to his.

And that was before his recent jump in TI.




lol @ matching odin and "power potential" he has not displayed anything that would leave me to believe he is that high end


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We've been over this shit before.

We all know what happens.

You just repeat on like a broken track and never address anything.


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Yea....we all know that Thanos didn't even come close to matching Odin in power, he just had enough durability to take a couple of hits...and even then he didn't take many before ending up on the ground and needing several panels just to stand back up.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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lol @ matching odin and "power potential" he has not displayed anything that would leave me to believe he is that high end


No, lol @ you. Him giving Odin trouble as he did is an indicator, and Odin specifically telling us such is another indicator. Not to mention his other interactions with skyfather level beings like, Mephisto.

Entire panel by panel break down of the fight:

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This is how the point by point break down went:

1. Odin blasts Thanos first one-handed. Thanos stands there unphased. (don't care if someone argues a force field, irrelevant. though it was neither mentioned nor outright displayed)

2. Thanos and Surfer blasts Odin together, Odin quickly eliminates Surfer, showing his influence in the fight was minor.

3. Odin blasts thanos again with two hands, this blast is slightly more effective as Thanos is somewhat unbalanced, still standing easily but one foot above the ground.

4. Thanos charges at Odin, can't tell if he missed with the punch or Odin blocked with his charged up wrist or what, as there is nothing to indicate exactly in the scan but anyway Odin blasts Thanos away from close quarters.

5. Thanos is up standing immediately and casually, suit and himself completely undamaged. Odin is surprised that Thanos is alive. Thanos blasts Odin two handed and this blast is felt clearly by the skyfather as he is forced to put his arms up to block it, but the impact is still clearly pushing his upperbody back. --More or less this blast and its subsequent effect is on par with the two handed blast Odin shot at Thanos at number 3.

6. Odin sends some asteroids at Thanos, while telling the titan that Thanos taps into a nearly limitless source of power, and notes that he himself is connected to a 'similar reserve' of power. Thanos easily busts up those asteroids while they are verbally jousting. This statement outright admits that he and Thanos both have a power source/reserves of similar power. I don't care how anyone else tries to finagle a different interpretation out of it, its right there on the page.

7. Some more talking, Thanos traps Odin in a block of pure force. Odin uses eye beams to weaken it enough to break out.

8. Odin gets serious and brings out Gugnir. Blasts Thanos with it. Thanos goes flying into some buildings in Asgard. Thanos gets up immediately, not a scratch on him or his suit, and he isn't talking as if he was taxed by the blast at all.

9. Thanos trudges through a second, more continuous blast. Odin has both of his hands on Gugnir's shaft, about two-thirds up it. Thanos grabs Gugnir with one hand, just below the blade.

10. Odin and Thanos have a bit of a struggle over the spear and then he sends them flying while they are both holding on to it and they land with an explosion, finally Thanos' grip is off it and can be considered the 'loser' after this point.

For the last point, the important thing to note here is that Odin was not able to simply rip Gugnir out of Thanos' grasp despite Odin using both hands and having better leverage since he's holding it past the middle of the shaft, and while Thanos used only one hand the whole time, had inferior leverage, and was weakened by the blast itself. How was it a 'domination' if Odin did no actual damage whatsoever prior to bringing out Gugnir, and prior to its usage was engaged in trading a few moves with Thanos in which neither were able to actually affect the other? Furthermore, he basically outright states that they have access to similar power levels, and he praises Thanos as a warrior. It was not casual nor one-sided nor a domination in the least. It's a faulty interpretation. It was a good fight. And a fight in which Thanos showed great physical strength against a skyfather as well.


I've posted that several times now, and no one seems to ever be able to dispute it.


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We've been over this shit before.

We all know what happens.

You just repeat on like a broken track and never address anything.



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