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Thor Vs Alan Scott

Since many here believe Scott is approaching trans-level or is trans level, let's pit him against Odinforce Thor.

Both are fighting to the best of their abilities, one must die!

Who comes out on top, Thordinforce or Alan Scarheart???

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Thor's durability and damage soak are significantly higher with the portion of the OF flowing through him. He could endure mostly anything Scott can throw at him to say nothing of the defenses Mjolnir provides.


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Thor's durability and damage soak are significantly higher with the portion of the OF flowing through him. He could endure mostly anything Scott can throw at him to say nothing of the defenses Mjolnir provides.


Yes I know. It pains you to see these 2 matched up...
Muahahahaha...
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Alan throws the book of willpower at him.


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Thor, easily.


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Alan's pretty much the only Lantern type - barring the likes of Parallax or Ion - I'd say has a good chance against Thor. While he won't run out of energy like a typical ring based Lantern would, Thor can still absorb or block most of what Alan can throw at him, though.


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Thor's a terrible matchup for Lanterns. His energy soak basically has no equal in comics at this level. Alan has more raw power, but I'd give the slight majority to the Asgardian.

So it's not so much a true power comparison as it is the interaction of their powerset. Thor wins, but it doesn't mean I think he's above Alan overall.

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Thor, easily.


It's funny how one word can invalidate a response.


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Thor's a terrible matchup for Lanterns. His energy soak basically has no equal in comics at this level. Alan has more raw power, but I'd give the slight majority to the Asgardian.

So it's not so much a true power comparison as it is the interaction of their powerset. Thor wins, but it doesn't mean I think he's above Alan overall.


Pretty good summary of how they'd match up. thumb up


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Thor's a terrible matchup for Lanterns. His energy soak basically has no equal in comics at this level. Alan has more raw power, but I'd give the slight majority to the Asgardian.

So it's not so much a true power comparison as it is the interaction of their powerset. Thor wins, but it doesn't mean I think he's above Alan overall.


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Pretty good summary of how they'd match up. thumb up



Care to quantify that?
Btw, I'm getting the feeling from you guys that Odinforce Thor was not needed. Hmm...


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Care to quantify that?
Btw, I'm getting the feeling from you guys that Odinforce Thor was not needed. Hmm...


Quantify what exactly?

Regular Thor has the feats to suggest him contending with Scott. While Scott definitely veers into trans territory, it's more of a power-set match up as opposed to a tier one, one that Thor holds the advantage in.

Thor with the Odin Force makes this more comfortable a victory for him, though.


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Quantify what exactly?

Regular Thor has the feats to suggest him contending with Scott. While Scott definitely veers into trans territory, it's more of a power-set match up as opposed to a tier one, one that Thor holds the advantage in.

Thor with the Odin Force makes this more comfortable a victory for him, though.



Out of 10...

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Out of 10...

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I'd say regular Thor could split with Alan, but I have no issues if someone thinks Alan takes it 6-7/10.

OF Thor should win like 6-7/10, though.

The Starheart is, for all intents and purposes, a greater source of power than the Odin Force, but Alan's never used it to a degree on panel the likes of which would be beyond the Odin Force. Even Alan completely unleashed on panel wouldn't be beyond King Thor, for example.

A theoretical Alan Scott would be grossly overpowered, though.


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Thor wins. It would be a hard-earned battle, though.

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It's funny how one word can invalidate a response.
quanchi? Is that the word?

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Thor's a terrible matchup for Lanterns. His energy soak basically has no equal in comics at this level. Alan has more raw power, but I'd give the slight majority to the Asgardian.

So it's not so much a true power comparison as it is the interaction of their powerset. Thor wins, but it doesn't mean I think he's above Alan overall.



It's funny how one word can invalidate a response.
With the odinforce I think he wins and does so easily.
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Thor wins. It would be a hard-earned battle, though.

quanchi? Is that the word?
You mad ?


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I'd say regular Thor could split with Alan, but I have no issues if someone thinks Alan takes it 6-7/10.

OF Thor should win like 6-7/10, though.

The Starheart is, for all intents and purposes, a greater source of power than the Odin Force, but Alan's never used it to a degree on panel the likes of which would be beyond the Odin Force. Even Alan completely unleashed on panel wouldn't be beyond King Thor, for example.

A theoretical Alan Scott would be grossly overpowered, though.


Alan who took on the JLA/JSA wouldn't be overpowered, IMO.

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Care to quantify that?
Btw, I'm getting the feeling from you guys that Odinforce Thor was not needed. Hmm...


Jake and I are pretty in sync on this one. Neither one of these guys is out of the others' league, and Thor is THE high herald energy absorber when he turns off the stupid and uses Mjolnir at all. Alan would have a hard time overcoming that normally, much less with OF.

He's got more potential power, including the OF, but he's up against basically the worst possible power set for his abilities.

But like, if Alan goes suicidal, over-9000 from the get-go, he might just KO Thor. So it's not a toss-up, I see Thor winning something like 8/10, but it's a good fight.


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Jake and I are pretty in sync on this one. Neither one of these guys is out of the others' league, and Thor is THE high herald energy absorber when he turns off the stupid and uses Mjolnir at all. Alan would have a hard time overcoming that normally, much less with OF.

He's got more potential power, including the OF, but he's up against basically the worst possible power set for his abilities.

But like, if Alan goes suicidal, over-9000 from the get-go, he might just KO Thor. So it's not a toss-up, I see Thor winning something like 8/10, but it's a good fight.


8/10?

Looks like I miscalculated... sad


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I think normal Thor could beat him.

The hammers basically weakness exploitation against magic users.

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Oops, I didn't see OF Thor, it would be a much better fight. Magic weaknesses doesn't guarantee a win, IMO. Alan was owning the combined might of JLA/JSA and Thor isn't that powerful. Speaking about normal Thor.

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Again, not so much power levels and their scope as it is power sets as opposed to one another which is the primary factor here.

I don't see normal Thor handling the combined JLA/JSA rosters like Crazy Alan did, but Thor's power set enables him to do quite well against Alan himself.


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