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lawest9
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Classic Doctor Strange vs Silver Surfer.

Don't know if this one has been done before, but powerful sorcery vs the Power Cosmic, who wins and why?

Oct 31st, 2012 01:11 AM

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It has, and Surfer

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Surfer if he's not messing around.

If he gives Strange any opportunity to get a spell off, he'll most likely lose.

Oct 31st, 2012 01:47 AM

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Oct 31st, 2012 01:56 AM

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Strange.

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surfer mostly due to reaction time and outright speed. But if he gives strange the chance to pull any of his higher tier shenanigan spells then he loses. Strange has some really nasty Deus Ex spells in his arsenal. That said in character he doesn't really pull them out.

CIS on Surfer would probably let strange get off a few spells before getting serious and using his speed and energy output to ko before strange can put up a major defense.

CIS off Surfer still wins because he jumps at the get go to murder the Dr. But if he gives Strange a few seconds to cast his best stuff from the get go he loses.

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Strange and handily at that

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Strange, no contest.

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Looks like a quick draw fight. The question is: does the Surfer have sufficient power to shatter Strange's basic defenses before Strange decides to use his PIS-level spells on the Surfer? IMO, yes but not always. Surfer around 6/10 of the time.

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Strange in a beatdown

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upfront fight, going with surfer,

prep even if its 1 hour, going with strange

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Rofl. Classic Strange was in a different league. This isn't close.

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Rofl. Classic Strange was in a different league. This isn't close.

on prep based fights or random encounters

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CIS on Surfer would probably let strange get off a few spells before getting serious and using his speed and energy output to ko before strange can put up a major defense.

CIS off Surfer still wins because he jumps at the get go to murder the Dr. But if he gives Strange a few seconds to cast his best stuff from the get go he loses.

CIS on, Surfer is phucked.
CIS off, Surfer has a better chance but he'll have to contend with auto shields and the Amulet.

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
on prep based fights or random encounters

Either/or. Most of his uber feats weren't with oodles of prep time, and his auto-shielding and "bread and butter" spells are honestly more than enough to flummox Surfer. At best, a random encounter prolongs the fight, but doesn't change it based on forum fight stipulations.

Again, there's just a power discrepancy. No clear weakness to exploit, and Classic Strange is at least a tier above Surfer.

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Either/or. Most of his uber feats weren't with oodles of prep time, and his auto-shielding and "bread and butter" spells are honestly more than enough to flummox Surfer. At best, a random encounter prolongs the fight, but doesn't change it based on forum fight stipulations.

Again, there's just a power discrepancy. No clear weakness to exploit, and Classic Strange is at least a tier above Surfer.

Classic Strange is a tier above Thanos here. It doesn't mean he actually is.

And Strange's weakness is the same thing keeping him in fights. His legendary unbreakable shields...

Dormammu amped Ghost Rider smashes through his sanctum (as you know, or should know, is heavily shielded) and his go to shield:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...iderv103005.jpg

Umar empowered Clea smashes through his shield:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...am-Up077-13.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...am-Up077-14.jpg

Azrael smashes through his rarely used backed up shield (Shield of Seraphim + Wand of Watoomb):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster4015.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster4016.jpg

A minor mystic with the sword of Kamuu cuts through every shield Strange puts up to defend his Sanctum:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...range031-05.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...range031-06.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...nge031-07-1.jpg

Defenses breached, mist meet face:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster3414.jpg

Here Strange admits that he can't back up his shield with continued pounding, and then it breaks:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster3710.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster3711.jpg

Although admittedly, that is contradicted by an earlier issue, although the concept is the same. He doesn't have much time to do anything:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...range029-14.jpg

Strange's shield blown up by two mystics:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster3814.jpg

Strange's shield destroyed by Absorbing Man inside Hulk's mind:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...nders083-11.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...nders083-12.jpg

Strange's shields getting destroyed by "science":
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster5307.jpg

Strange's cardio getting him taxed from one spell:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster5514.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster5515.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...eMaster5516.jpg

Plus, even things like his light of Agamotto has failed to actual Satan empowered characters like Hellcat (one of Strange's auto wins on the forums):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...nders094-16.jpg

And the famous Surfer bane on the forums. The time where Strange just traps him in a bubble and the fight is done... well, not only was the one you saw probably edited (Long Pig edited the words), but that's not really what happened.
And it wasn't really Surfer:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...rsupre37-14.jpg

But here's the battle:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...rsupre37-19.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...rsupre37-20.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...rsupre37-21.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...rsupre37-22.jpg

The power of a weaker Surfer gets through his shield. That Surfer btw killed himself by running into a moutain...

And here's something you can enjoy as well, Werewold possessed Strange vs Spider-Man.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...amUp_080p18.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...amUp_080p19.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums...amUp_080p21.jpg

Honestly, I see Surfer wiping Strange out quickly, but I can see how others see it being close. A stomp is utterly ridiculous for Strange though. Especially considering most of his higher feats come from a ridiculous amount of help.

I don't see it anyway. erm

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Oct 31st, 2012 08:35 PM

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lol. Goddamn long pig.

I'm not going to get into a protracted scan war. There is still a counter-argument to be made, and there's a lack of "here's why he could win" scans of his feats in that selection of instances. But you make a good point.

Here's your internet point for the day. You win.

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