Sorry, dont mean this to be a spite thread to Stoic's current one, in fact the opposite, more an homage, and a fight I certainly wouldnt mind knowing what we all think about it.
PRE CRISIS SUPERMAN
vs.
FULL POWERED TYRANT
Takes place in a galaxy far beyond our own. Who wins?
Who do you like more? Superman had more and better strength, durability and speed feats than all the herald and trans characters combined. The question is which do you prefer more? A character with a few appearances whose highest feat is fighting and losing to galactus or the guy who was tossing planets like a ping pong ball every other issue and at his weakest level tanked Big Bang itself?
Well, saying Tyrant fought and lost to Galactus while true, is still a bit misleading and selling him short. Tyrant at his Full Power was a near equal to Galactus, who actually eats planets for fun. Personally Id pick Galactus over PC Superman, so having someone a bit lesser powered than G fight Supes, to me, makes for quick a solid match.
I like PC Superman more cause if Superman loses a debate against an insanely powerful character I can be like, oop, you're lucky we Supes fans separated Superman continuity as a favor to everyone else. I mean, we didn't have to, that's just because we're so secure that we cut off a whole era and still put him in debates.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
in my opinion PC superman should never be used in debates in the first place, this guy has a very high end feats which are just ridiculous, but then again he has a very low end feats which once again put him to shame even at average superman standards, PC superman was too much of a cartoonish character.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
when pc superman low level,sure,pc mongul,pc DS,pc composite Superman can beat him,but when pc superman high level,he can beat PC any charater,even shazam(who once move entire galaxy and survival INFINITY
no you dont get the difference because you are not familiar with the character and talk out of the air, this is not a subject for debate but a FACT.
every character has low feats and high feats you genius however they still keep the character at some level range.
with PC superman its sometimes he is higher than a skyfather and sometimes he is a low herald or even high meta.
read some PC before you go into debates about the subject.
Of course he's all over the place, I was just saying that his high end feats weren't any more cartoony than those of, say, Doctor Strange or the Silver Surfer back then. Also, that a few comic arts had at least some dramatic appeal as opposed to being loony.
I apologize. I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
a level range pc superman not PC superman,he always has PIS,a lot of pis,nO PIS,PC Validus,pc mongul,pc ds,pc composite Superman can beat him,but PC Validus,pc mongul,pc ds,pc composite Superman,this all no one can do pc superman feats,(lift entire universe weight,faster than infinity survival big bang)),pc mon-el or superoby-prime can equal to him,Unless this is a PIS PC SUPERMAN,he can overpowerd any thing
what? pc superman not pc superman? what are you even trying to say? PIS? thats the point there isnt PIS with this guy he is just either that powerful or that weak.
the "points" you just presented only back me up further that sometimes he has very high end feats and sometimes very low end feats, calling that PIS is unbased and doesnt make any sense since he got many feats on both sides, again this is not a matter of opinion this is a fact, arguing against this fact only makes you look ignorant.