__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Doctor Manhattan will inevitably win. Unlike Solar, Doctor Manhattan has access to infinite potential outcomes of this battle, in an infinite assortment of outcomes, somewhere in there Doctor Manhattan wins so he can work backward from there.
Doctor Manhattan and Solar basically have identical abilities - with the exception that Before Watchmen gives Doctor Manhattan the ability of Probability Manipulation. Solar has never demonstrated that he is a Quantum Observer.
Doctor Manhattan is the greatest transherald, basically an Abstract, almost at the nigh-omnipotence level of Kubik or The Beyonder.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
DM has the probability where Solar doesn't get his superpowers.
That's actually not the most Au Current depiction of Solar, anyway.
I mean, pre-crisis Superman could survive in the >hypernova-thermal climate of the big bang, but I abstained from using him in the Superman Vs Sentry thread.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Aug 28th, 2013 at 07:08 AM
Id est, in one potential reality the Primal Monitor intercedes in this battle, favoring Doctor Manhattan.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
One problem with Doctor Manhattan, and this is perhaps Solar's saving grace, is paradox. For instance, he couldn't stop nuclear war without leaving the planet.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Quit being facetious and passive aggressive, Mindset.
If I've misinterpreted the implications of probability manipulation, please explain why.
Present the evidence.
Probability Manipulation: "The user manipulates the probability of an event to happen, making unlikely things occur more often or instantly and preventing liable events from happening. They can cause and prevent both good and bad luck, sudden deaths, natural disasters, and even apocalyptic events."
Doctor Manhattan's method of Quantum Precognition doesn't always constitute total control as seen in Before Watchman, and so he's not listed as having this ability. However, his level of Quantum Manipulation should justify a stalemate here, for reasons Mindset [un]intentionally but asserted. His assertion may be intentional but it is decidedly erroneous in his mind, as he believes it's only from a misinterpreted viewpoint of Doctor Manhattan's abilities.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Aug 28th, 2013 at 07:36 AM
Addendum: Passive aggressive behavior can be interpreted as flame.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"