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Aquaman vs Frankensten
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Aquaman has the trident, Frankenstein has the sword.
Who wins?
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Aug 30th, 2013 05:03 PM
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Aug 30th, 2013 05:11 PM
Galan007
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Holy mega-scan!
Anyway, going with Frank. The guy tooled OMAC(whom Superman postulated might be stronger than himself) and seemed to handle Billy and Dianna well enough.
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Aug 30th, 2013 05:17 PM
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Frankie is mega impressive in the DCNU. I'd go with him for now.
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Frankenstein has Michael's sword. I'd go with him personally. It would be a good martch, though.
Aug 30th, 2013 06:21 PM
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I could certainly see Frankie take a majority, but I believe it would be a good and close fight.
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Frank handling Billy is certainly impressive, but his best feat thus far is tooling OMAC.
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Aug 30th, 2013 06:35 PM
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I always thought Franky owning that humungous monster in the first arc of Franksenstein was bad ass. There was it stated he was an unstoppable killing machine.
Aug 30th, 2013 06:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Frank handling Billy is certainly impressive, but his best feat thus far is tooling OMAC.
Didn't see that fight. Do you have scans?
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Aug 30th, 2013 07:21 PM
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Strength should be about equal.
Eh. Not really. Frankenstein is quite a bit stronger, by what they've shown.
Aquaman is faster, though.
Also: I made a Wonder Woman vs Frankenstein thread. That should also be interesting.
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Aug 30th, 2013 07:44 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Giving Frankie the majority here. He has some impressive showings like overpowering Captain Marvel. He have some good showings with his Flash team up that I will post soon.
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/c...?sort=3&o=8
That's not necessarily "overpowering" him.
I'm taking Aquaman.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Philosophía
Eh. Not really. Frankenstein is quite a bit stronger, by what they've shown.
Aquaman is faster, though.
Also: I made a Wonder Woman vs Frankenstein thread. That should also be interesting.
In the scans I posted AQ subdues Frankie with the help of Black Orchid and Hawkman and in the second scan Frankie and AQ grapple and seem equal.
Frankenstein might be stronger based on his fight with Diana and Captain Marvel, but not by that much.
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Aug 30th, 2013 08:10 PM
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Aug 30th, 2013 08:40 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by comicfan11
In the scans I posted AQ subdues Frankie with the help of Black Orchid and Hawkman and in the second scan Frankie and AQ grapple and seem equal.
Frankenstein might be stronger based on his fight with Diana and Captain Marvel, but not by that much.
There's four people attacking him, and besides Aquaman two of them are Wonder Woman and Hawkman. This doesn't say anything about where he stands compared to Arthur.
And isolated panels where they're grapling/charging eachother don't really mean anything - that happens in comics all the time, even with characters of different strength levels. If that had been an extended standstill, then sure, we could have drawn some conclusions.
In the same issues, Frankie has:
1). Engaged and ragdolled Captain Marvel. Then engaged him again, putting him in a lock, with the Billy having to use lightning to escape.
2). Shown engaging Wonder Woman, extended fight, at one point having her on the floor until she regains the position.
He never seems to be below them (and this is further supported by his fight with OMAC). Aquaman, on the other hand, is a notch below Wonder Woman.
Hell, OMAC could probably beast Aquaman.
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Aug 30th, 2013 08:51 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Philosophía
There's four people attacking him, and besides Aquaman two of them are Wonder Woman and Hawkman. This doesn't say anything about where he stands compared to Arthur.
And isolated panels where they're grapling/charging eachother don't really mean anything - that happens in comics all the time, even with characters of different strength levels. If that had been an extended standstill, then sure, we could have drawn some conclusions.
In the same issues, Frankie has:
1). Engaged and ragdolled Captain Marvel. Then engaged him again, putting him in a lock, with the Billy having to use lightning to escape.
2). Shown engaging Wonder Woman, extended fight, at one point having her on the floor until she regains the position.
He never seems to be below them (and this is further supported by his fight with OMAC). Aquaman, on the other hand, is a notch below Wonder Woman.
Hell, OMAC could probably beast Aquaman.
I'm not arguing that Frank is stronger, just that even if Frank wins (AQ is faster and it's not h2h, they use their gear) it's not gonna be without a good fight.
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Aug 30th, 2013 08:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by comicfan11
I'm not arguing that Frank is stronger, just that even if Frank wins (AQ is faster and it's not h2h, they use their gear) it's not gonna be without a good fight.
Oh, I agree that it will be a good one.
Frank is beastly, that's all. If Aquaman uses the speed he showed against, say, Wonder Woman, then it could turn out differently.
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Aug 30th, 2013 08:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
There's four people attacking him, and besides Aquaman two of them are Wonder Woman and Hawkman. This doesn't say anything about where he stands compared to Arthur.
And isolated panels where they're grapling/charging eachother don't really mean anything - that happens in comics all the time, even with characters of different strength levels. If that had been an extended standstill, then sure, we could have drawn some conclusions.
In the same issues, Frankie has:
1). Engaged and ragdolled Captain Marvel. Then engaged him again, putting him in a lock, with the Billy having to use lightning to escape.
2). Shown engaging Wonder Woman, extended fight, at one point having her on the floor until she regains the position.
He never seems to be below them (and this is further supported by his fight with OMAC). Aquaman, on the other hand, is a notch below Wonder Woman.
Hell, OMAC could probably beast Aquaman.
Since I've basically turned this into a 'Respect Frankenstein' thread, I may as well add the feats you mentioned as well.
Frank throws Billy around like the impetuous child he is:
[img=http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16562140_Justice_League_Dark_2011-_023-009.jpg]
Appears to grapple with Dianna evenly:
[img=http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16562141_Justice_League_Dark_2011-_023-015.jpg]
Chokes out Billy on yet another occasion:
[img=http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16562138_3733009.jpg]
[img=http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16562139_8222871.jpg]
Nothing against Arthur, but Frank has the distinct strength advantage.
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Aug 30th, 2013 09:00 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Philosophía
Oh, I agree that it will be a good one.
Frank is beastly, that's all. If Aquaman uses the speed he showed against, say, Wonder Woman, then it could turn out differently.
Yeah that's his best chance. His speed advantage and a really solid weapon.
Also Frank is one of my favorite characters since Morisson first wrote him and I agree he is a beast.
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Aug 30th, 2013 09:02 PM
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I agree Frank is stronger, my point was that's not a straight h2h fight and AQ's speed and standard equipment greatly increases his damage output.
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