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The DC Super Genius Hierarchy: What are Marvel's Analog's?

What are Marvel's Analog's to DC's super geniuses? Please match them, if you can.

Earth based scientists
Alexander Luthor Jr.
Ultra Humanite
Ray Palmer
Lex Luthor
T.O. Morrow
Dr. Sivanna
Mr. Terrific
I.Q.
The Chief (Niles Caulder)
Professor Ivo
Will Magnus
Gizmo
Steel (John Henry Irons)
Professor Haley
Ted Kord
Batman
Prometheus
The Thinker
Calculator
Professor Stein
Toymaster (Hiro Okamura)
Ryan Choi


space based geniuses
Captain Comet
Adam Strange
The Engineer

Alien Super Geniuses

Metron
Brainiac
Saradath
Lyrl Dox
Vril Dox

Top tier geniuses

Superman
Orion
Martian Manhunter
Mr. Majestic

Time Travel geniuses

Rip Hunter
Epoch
Per Degaton
Chronos (Both Clinton & Walker)
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Doom, for all that stuff

Also: Doom > list


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Doom, for all that stuff

Also: Doom > list


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Doom, for all that stuff

Also: Doom > list


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Doom, for all that stuff

Also: Doom > list


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A lot of the people on that list are specialists in specific areas, whereas Doom dabbles in pretty much everything (genetics, robotics, computer science, time travel, space exploration, sorcery, engineering, politics, espionage, art/culture, etc.). And he often does so on a ridiculously high caliber.


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A lot of the people on that list are specialists in specific areas, whereas Doom dabbles in pretty much everything (genetics, robotics, computer science, time travel, space exploration, sorcery, engineering, politics, espionage, art/culture, etc.). And he often does so on a ridiculously high caliber.


That's not what the thread is asking. For example, Ray Palmer and Hank Pym are close to each other or similar. I'd like for you to pick some Marvel geniuses and compare them to DC's. You said yourself that Marvel is smarter. Well, start comparing.

BTW, this is pure science. No magic.
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I'm saying that Doom doesn't really have a counterpart (and not just because he's smarter). I guess the closest would be Lex, though.


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I'm saying that Doom doesn't really have a counterpart (and not just because he's smarter). I guess the closest would be Lex, though.


Beatbok's made a good post not too long ago that put Ultra Humanite the closest counter part. Even more so than Lex Luthor. If you look at Ultra's resume, it's pretty impressive.

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In a prep war Ultra should take this.

With prep he has

Bested the All Star Squadron and Infinity Inc combined ( that's over 60 heroes with a lot more power than the Avengers). Eventually defeated only because two of the underlings he genetically altered to have super powers turned on him.

Taken on the JSA and Infinity Inc combined ( making them fight each other - defeated only because he considered the street levelers like huntress beneath his notice.

Defeated the JLA and JSA resulting in all heroes on Earth 2 being wiped from existence by his planned upsetting of the cosmic balance. Only defeated because of the unthinkable act of Earth 1 Cheetah saving her arch enemy Wonder Woman to get back at Ultra's betrayal.

Taken the power of the reality warping 5th dimension Djinn Thzz and taken over the world keeping Superman, and every major hero on the planet as his play things and puppets. Again only eventually loosing because another villain against all character changes sides

Add those and many more to the fact that he is a strong enough TPer to match and defeat Brain Wave Sr in psionic battle ( the same BW who in All Star Squadron 19 casually TP commands the entire JSA including Spectre and fate to do his wishes). Telepathically knock out several heroes while trapped in another dimension (Limbo) and tp communicate with himself across four decades.

WITH the physical power to man handle E-2 Superman, beat the crap out of Powergirl when enraged. As well as take the combined power of New Earth Superman, Martian Manhunter and Guy Gardner to take him on

He should take this quite easily. he can and has created minions who are more powerful than most of the Avengers


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As for the others, I think Niles Caulder/Tony Stark.

Mr. Terrific/Black Panther

Relic/High Evolutionary
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Lex has way better feats than Ultra like creating Reactron who killed the entirety of new krypton, creating the clone Rao which took on several teams at once and was only defeated by Flamebird and Nightwing, outsmarting Brainiac, rebuking brainiac 5 at his inferior tech in final night, taking the power of omnipotent Zone Child which was above the likes of ****ing Death of Endless and so on. Ultra doesn't even compares.


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space based geniuses
Captain Comet
Adam Strange
The Engineer


The Engineer's from earth and spends much of her time in Earth or near it. She's basically DC's answer to Iron Man.


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Why am I bothering...


Earth based scientists
Alexander Luthor Jr. - Val Richards
Ultra Humanite - Modok
Ray Palmer - Scott Lang
Lex Luthor - Mr Sinister
T.O. Morrow - Scorpio
Dr. Sivanna - EggHead
Mr. Terrific - Tony Stark
I.Q. - Tinkerer
The Chief (Niles Caulder) - Hank Pym
Professor Ivo - Hiro Takachiro
Will Magnus - The Leader
Gizmo - Fixer
Steel (John Henry Irons) - Black Panther
Professor Haley - Electro
Ted Kord - Banner
Batman - Beast
Prometheus - Blizzard
The Thinker - Mad Thinker
Calculator - Cho
Professor Stein - Ted Sallis
Toymaster (Hiro Okamura) - Dr. Octopus
Ryan Choi - Bill Foster


space based geniuses
Captain Comet - Adam Warlock
Adam Strange - Starlord
The Engineer - High Evolutionary

Alien Super Geniuses

Metron - Kree Supreme Intelligence
Brainiac - Ultron
Saradath - Captain Marvell

Top tier geniuses laughing out loud

Superman - to variable
Orion - Doc Connors
Martian Manhunter - Prof X


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Reed Richards - Dr.Doom

Dc don't have a counter to them 2
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Why am I bothering...


Earth based scientists
Alexander Luthor Jr. - Val Richards
Ultra Humanite - Modok
Ray Palmer - Scott Lang
Lex Luthor - Mr Sinister
T.O. Morrow - Scorpio
Dr. Sivanna - EggHead
Mr. Terrific - Tony Stark
I.Q. - Tinkerer
The Chief (Niles Caulder) - Hank Pym
Professor Ivo - Hiro Takachiro
Will Magnus - The Leader
Gizmo - Fixer
Steel (John Henry Irons) - Black Panther
Professor Haley - Electro
Ted Kord - Banner
Batman - Beast
Prometheus - Blizzard
The Thinker - Mad Thinker
Calculator - Cho
Professor Stein - Ted Sallis
Toymaster (Hiro Okamura) - Dr. Octopus
Ryan Choi - Bill Foster


space based geniuses
Captain Comet - Adam Warlock
Adam Strange - Starlord
The Engineer - High Evolutionary

Alien Super Geniuses

Metron - Kree Supreme Intelligence
Brainiac - Ultron
Saradath - Captain Marvell

Top tier geniuses laughing out loud

Superman - to variable
Orion - Doc Connors
Martian Manhunter - Prof X


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Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why am I bothering...


Earth based scientists
Alexander Luthor Jr. - Val Richards
Ultra Humanite - Modok
Ray Palmer - Scott Lang
Lex Luthor - Mr Sinister
T.O. Morrow - Scorpio
Dr. Sivanna - EggHead
Mr. Terrific - Tony Stark
I.Q. - Tinkerer
The Chief (Niles Caulder) - Hank Pym
Professor Ivo - Hiro Takachiro
Will Magnus - The Leader
Gizmo - Fixer
Steel (John Henry Irons) - Black Panther
Professor Haley - Electro
Ted Kord - Banner
Batman - Beast
Prometheus - Blizzard
The Thinker - Mad Thinker
Calculator - Cho
Professor Stein - Ted Sallis
Toymaster (Hiro Okamura) - Dr. Octopus
Ryan Choi - Bill Foster


space based geniuses
Captain Comet - Adam Warlock
Adam Strange - Starlord
The Engineer - High Evolutionary

Alien Super Geniuses

Metron - Kree Supreme Intelligence
Brainiac - Ultron
Saradath - Captain Marvell

Top tier geniuses laughing out loud

Superman - to variable
Orion - Doc Connors
Martian Manhunter - Prof X


I dunno why Abhi is facepalming, I'm impressed that you even tried. You could nitpick answers all you want, but obviously there aren't exact copies so there's wrong answers.


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Why am I bothering...


Earth based scientists
Alexander Luthor Jr. - Val Richards
Ultra Humanite - Modok
Ray Palmer - Scott Lang
Lex Luthor - Mr Sinister
T.O. Morrow - Scorpio
Dr. Sivanna - EggHead
Mr. Terrific - Tony Stark
I.Q. - Tinkerer
The Chief (Niles Caulder) - Hank Pym
Professor Ivo - Hiro Takachiro
Will Magnus - The Leader
Gizmo - Fixer
Steel (John Henry Irons) - Black Panther
Professor Haley - Electro
Ted Kord - Banner
Batman - Beast
Prometheus - Blizzard
The Thinker - Mad Thinker
Calculator - Cho
Professor Stein - Ted Sallis
Toymaster (Hiro Okamura) - Dr. Octopus
Ryan Choi - Bill Foster


space based geniuses
Captain Comet - Adam Warlock
Adam Strange - Starlord
The Engineer - High Evolutionary

Alien Super Geniuses

Metron - Kree Supreme Intelligence
Brainiac - Ultron
Saradath - Captain Marvell

Top tier geniuses laughing out loud

Superman - to variable
Orion - Doc Connors
Martian Manhunter - Prof X







Good try Pym
good list
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Reed Richards - Dr.Doom

Dc don't have a counter to them 2


Alex Luthor Jr. And Ultra Humanite/Luthor, IMO.
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The Engineer's from earth and spends much of her time in Earth or near it. She's basically DC's answer to Iron Man.


I'm talking about DCnU Engineer.
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Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why am I bothering...


Earth based scientists
Alexander Luthor Jr. - Val Richards
Ultra Humanite - Modok
Ray Palmer - Scott Lang
Lex Luthor - Mr Sinister
T.O. Morrow - Scorpio
Dr. Sivanna - EggHead
Mr. Terrific - Tony Stark
I.Q. - Tinkerer
The Chief (Niles Caulder) - Hank Pym
Professor Ivo - Hiro Takachiro
Will Magnus - The Leader
Gizmo - Fixer
Steel (John Henry Irons) - Black Panther
Professor Haley - Electro
Ted Kord - Banner
Batman - Beast
Prometheus - Blizzard
The Thinker - Mad Thinker
Calculator - Cho
Professor Stein - Ted Sallis
Toymaster (Hiro Okamura) - Dr. Octopus
Ryan Choi - Bill Foster


space based geniuses
Captain Comet - Adam Warlock
Adam Strange - Starlord
The Engineer - High Evolutionary

Alien Super Geniuses

Metron - Kree Supreme Intelligence
Brainiac - Ultron
Saradath - Captain Marvell

Top tier geniuses laughing out loud

Superman - to variable
Orion - Doc Connors
Martian Manhunter - Prof X


Sweet list! Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I still think DC's is a deeper, more impressive list overall, though. stick out tongue
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