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Stoic
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The Undisputed King

Who among the Herald tier is the best? I don't mean solely against each other, but who would be able to handle the greatest variety of threats?

I would like this to be more of a mixture of CIS on CIS off debate, because PIS often runs so deep that it muddies the waters of what they can actually do, and what they actually do, or do not do in comics.

Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
Hulk
Black Bolt
Blue Marvel
Flash
Orion
Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel/Black Adam
Blue Marvel
Hal Jordan

I know that there are many more that make up this tier, but too many competitors make for a terrible discussion. However if you can think of another character that would be better than the ones mentioned above, name them.

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Let the butthurt-fest begin...

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DC : Superman. It's no contest too. When SHTF, he out performs his "peers" by a LARGE margin.

Marvel : Thor or Surfer. Thor in terms of raw power output (hello Godblast). Surfer in terms of everything else : planetary level TP, time travel, planetary level matter manip, etc..

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Stoic
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Originally posted by Reflassshh
Let the butthurt-fest begin...

There are simply too many characters for this to evolve into a butt-hurt bonanza.

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Apr 26th, 2014 02:00 AM

Stoic
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Originally posted by zopzop
DC : Superman. It's no contest too. When SHTF, he out performs his "peers" by a LARGE margin.

Marvel : Thor or Surfer. Thor in terms of raw power output (hello Godblast). Surfer in terms of everything else : planetary level TP, time travel, planetary level matter manip, etc..

Pretend that they are all in the same universe. Who is the King or Queen?

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Apr 26th, 2014 02:01 AM

zopzop
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Originally posted by Stoic
Pretend that they are all in the same universe. Who is the King or Queen?

No can do.

Thor/Surfer/Superman are too close to call. Each of them having their specific strengths/weaknesses.

In DC it's Supes. The undisputed King of the Herald Tier there.

In Marvel it's a toss up between Thor and Surfer.

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Apr 26th, 2014 02:10 AM

Supermex
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Re: The Undisputed King

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Originally posted by Stoic
Who among the Herald tier is the best? I don't mean solely against each other, but who would be able to handle the greatest variety of threats?

I would like this to be more of a mixture of CIS on CIS off debate, because PIS often runs so deep that it muddies the waters of what they can actually do, and what they actually do, or do not do in comics.

Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
Hulk
Black Bolt
Blue Marvel
Flash
Orion
Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel/Black Adam
Blue Marvel
Hal Jordan

I know that there are many more that make up this tier, but too many competitors make for a terrible discussion. However if you can think of another character that would be better than the ones mentioned above, name them.

lol wow I was thinking if doing a thread much like this earlier today ...
nice..

Apr 26th, 2014 02:18 AM

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Supermex
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Originally posted by zopzop
No can do.

Thor/Surfer/Superman are too close to call. Each of them having their specific strengths/weaknesses.

In DC it's Supes. The undisputed King of the Herald Tier there.

In Marvel it's a toss up between Thor and Surfer.

I hear you Zopzop!
Its tough to pick just one..

Dc its Supes and Marvel its Thor or Surfer

If I was forced to pick just one, I have to go with Silver Surfer
he can do alittle of everything.

Apr 26th, 2014 02:23 AM

maxivitopowe
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Who I think should be up there:
Blue Marvel
Manhunter
Flash
Jordan

Who is up there currently:
Thor

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Digi
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Originally posted by Stoic
There are simply too many characters for this to evolve into a butt-hurt bonanza.

Famous last words.

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Originally posted by Stoic
I don't mean solely against each other, but who would be able to handle the greatest variety of threats?

Anyway, the answer is Surfer. Preboot Kal might have the most raw power, but he also has more exploitable weaknesses than Surfer and Thor, who are the other logical choices. This isn't a H2H, where Superman fares much better within his own tier. But because of your stips, he gets knocked down a peg.

And the wild card entries that you didn't mention are the mages: Talisman and Classic Strange. Because of how your OP is worded, with versatility in the face of any kind of threat being an advantage, they may actually be the best heralds for the job.

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Khazra Reborn
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Classic Dr. Strange could legitimately do anything, and beat anyone.

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Digi
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Classic Dr. Strange could legitimately do anything, and beat anyone.

That's not quite true. He's got a few uber showings, several average to good feats, and a ton of inexplicably low ones. There's a reason he's down to HH (originally he was Trans.). But on versatility, yes, he's the man.

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Apr 26th, 2014 03:11 AM

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Hulk

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Digi
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Hulk

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Originally posted by Stoic
who would be able to handle the greatest variety of threats?

I don't think the green one makes the cut here.

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Apr 26th, 2014 03:47 AM

carver9
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Thor. Easily

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DarkSaint85
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Also want to throw the Lanterns into the mix.

Alan Scott? Mystical, plus I can do anything with my ring?

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Warrior Madness
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It's gotta be a tie between Thor and Surfer: they have too much raw power plus versatility.
Thor has the edge on physical power and Surfer, on versatility. I can't choose.

Apr 26th, 2014 05:54 AM