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LordofBrooklyn
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The Authority VS The Avengers

The Authority- Wildstorm

1. The Doctor
2. Jenny Sparks
3. Apollo
4. Engineer
5. The Midnighter
6. Jack Hawksmoor
7. The High


The Avengers

1. Doctor Strange
2. Starbrand
3. Thor
4. Captain Marvel
5. Black Panther
6. Captain America
7. Wonder Man


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The Doctor and Jenny Sparks.


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Havent seen this old chestnut in years.

Avengers.


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Authority.

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Jenny Sparks wasn't as broken as Quantum right?
Avengers might have a chance

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The Doctor solos.


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Might?
Haha.

Avengers are on a higher level of power.


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...Why did I think this was going to be a troll thread where you were going to put an Avengers squad against; Triple H, Stephanie McMahon, Randy Orton, Kane and Seth Rollins.


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Avengers may be higher level (debatable), but the Authority go for the kill. As in, sure, Strange is more powerful than Jenny....but he'd try restraining her.

She'd fry his brain at the get go.


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can the Doctor solo?

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
but the Authority go for the kill.

Dang it, i wish it hadnt been you.

I called this an old chestnut and i meant it.
At the height of AuthorityMania everyone's go to point was "OMG the Authority are so powerful and are willing to KILL!"

I said it at the turn of the century and i say it now:

So?

85% of the villains any hero faces are powerful and willing to kill.

The Authority's a cool team and all, but no matter how many Avenger clones they anally abuse with construction tools, they arent THE Avengers.


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The Authority's a cool team and all, but no matter how many Avenger clones they anally abuse with construction tools, they arent THE Avengers.


The many rapes of Mark Millar.

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Dang it, i wish it hadnt been you.

I called this an old chestnut and i meant it.
At the height of AuthorityMania everyone's go to point was "OMG the Authority are so powerful and are willing to KILL!"

I said it at the turn of the century and i say it now:

So?

85% of the villains any hero faces are powerful and willing to kill.

The Authority's a cool team and all, but no matter how many Avenger clones they anally abuse with construction tools, they arent THE Avengers.


Heh, true.

But not many are willing to do a brain fry, for example.

Magneto is a good example. Now, he is willing to kill. And has done so, many times recently.

BUT his powers are woozy. He nearly knocked himself out trying to take Avalanche out.

Imagine if he had this mindset in his 'classic' days? If he approached every fight with a LOL EMP to the brainzzzz mindset?

Joker is another. Willing to kill? Sure. Willing to kill Batman? No. He toys with him.

Kingpin? Kills when neccessary. Willing to take a hit out on Peter Parker. Butwhen they fight, he uses fisticuffs. Etc etc.

Their mindsets are not to go for the cheap wins/instakills. Their MO is to draw it out, play with their foes.

Not so the Authority. The Doctor turns hisopponents bones to Chanel #5, for example. Apollo is willing to go straight to the sun and amp himself. Midnighter is content to use doors to BFR opponents. Jack kicks heads off without giving his opponents to talk. Jenny just drops in and fried brains etc etc.


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I take it back, i'm GLAD it was you; you actually back up your opinion with more than school girl giggles at the Authority's coolness.

Granted, its not changing my mind, but, i'm not out to change yours.
I gave up on that back in the day with this particular Vs.
Just posting my opinions, such as they are.


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Tee hee, Jack is so macho.


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Heh, true.

But not many are willing to do a brain fry, for example.

Magneto is a good example. Now, he is willing to kill. And has done so, many times recently.

BUT his powers are woozy. He nearly knocked himself out trying to take Avalanche out.

Imagine if he had this mindset in his 'classic' days? If he approached every fight with a LOL EMP to the brainzzzz mindset?

Joker is another. Willing to kill? Sure. Willing to kill Batman? No. He toys with him.

Kingpin? Kills when neccessary. Willing to take a hit out on Peter Parker. Butwhen they fight, he uses fisticuffs. Etc etc.

Their mindsets are not to go for the cheap wins/instakills. Their MO is to draw it out, play with their foes.

Not so the Authority. The Doctor turns hisopponents bones to Chanel #5, for example. Apollo is willing to go straight to the sun and amp himself. Midnighter is content to use doors to BFR opponents. Jack kicks heads off without giving his opponents to talk. Jenny just drops in and fried brains etc etc.


That's true, but at the same time, wasn't pretty much everybody they faced No-Names or characters that only lasted those issues they were in? How did they operate against any relevant WildStorm characters?


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That's true, but at the same time, wasn't pretty much everybody they faced No-Names or characters that only lasted those issues they were in? How did they operate against any relevant WildStorm characters?


IOW, how did they do when faced with opponents Wildstorm actually wanted to keep and couldn't kill willy-nilly?

In a foum fight, we don't care for example if Superman gets torn apart (somewhere, Abhi's signal watch is beeping). So his opponent can fight with full brutality, within character, of course.


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Then that'd go for the Avengers, as well.
Bad news for the Authority, then.

Also, as to invoking abhi. Seeing him turn this into a Superman thread would be hilarious.


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IOW, how did they do when faced with opponents Wildstorm actually wanted to keep and couldn't kill willy-nilly?

In a foum fight, we don't care for example if Superman gets torn apart (somewhere, Abhi's signal watch is beeping). So his opponent can fight with full brutality, within character, of course.


You can say characters WildStorm actually wanted to keep, but that deflects from the fact that the characters Authority killed were random No-Names or characters that lasted a whole 3 issue or so storyline, in general. Meaning, little to nothing to establish power level.


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Which is why I said in character (I know you said you weren't debating, but just wanted to point that out). Cap in character wouldn't kill a new opponent. Nor would BP, Strange etc. Even Thor, the most 'warrior' of the lot, won't open with Godblasts or whatever.

Which is why I said, power levels go to Avengers (with a caveat on average). But mentality wise...

I just see it as the Authority have been told these are bad guys, and they need to be taken out.

The Avengers have also been told the same.

'Taken out', under the Authority, means extreme measures.

Under the Avengers, means putting them in prison or detaining them until they can learn more etc.

The bell rings, *ding*

The Authority open up with their heavy artillery. That's the point I'm trying to make, I guess. Unless both sides were bloodlusted.


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