Ive been debating this one with a friend for the evening, I say Batman would win. And before all you Cap fanboys jump on here, representing your cap denominator let me just point out; Bats vs Cap can really be distilled down to three categories: Physicality, Fighting Skill, Gadgets; Cap wins Physicality for sure, he can bench 1200, Bats can press 1000; Cap is faster and more durable BUT Batman has more fighting skill; Cap knows about 12 martial arts while Batman has mastered 127, meaning that anything Cap can throw at Batman h2h will be countered. gadgets is also a no brainer for Batman because while Caps shield is very durable and quite versatile he doesnt have explosives, gas attack, projectiles, tazers etc like Batman does, more versatility in weaponry equals Batman finding a way around the shields defence. 2 out of 3 categories go to Batman. Its a helluva fight but Batman wins 6/10
Actually Bats vs Cap can really be distilled down to 4 categories: Physicality, Fighting Skill, Gadgets and Smarts. Cap is faster in running speed not HTH as for Durability unless you take Batman out of his suiot it's a wash.
You could have just used the search feature, this thread has been done multiple times.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
First of Cap has as much fighting skill. in a fight against a foe who knew a crap ton of fighting moves, Cap states he is adept in every form of combat known to man.
However Iron Fist States his style is basic.
However again Black Panther who knows 100+ fighting styles states cap skill is adapting to whatever BP throws at him.
So the skill argument is Bull$hit to say the least.
Next is stats. Cap is more than 1200 pounds. He is two tons when at full performance. The Serum during the 1200 feat was Cap when the Serum was not as potent. His WW2 time frame Cap was lifting cars.
Speed wise Cap meh.... As fast at Batman. Durability again is meh as Cap is as durable as Batman wearing a Batsuit.
The biggest advantage of Bruce is his gadgets. He simply has more. Alot more! He has options, versatility, and thats what wins him the fight more than not.
So really in the end its raw versatility and not his fighting skill or stats that wins fights for Batman.
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I call bullshit on writers who dont do research, but thats just me.
Still you're pretty spot on.
Standard gear, if Cap uses the shield before Batman foes his gadgets, Cap's going to smash Batman. If Batman "draws" first, he can get the win.
Pretty much. I find Deathbattle complete crap when Cap threw his shield and Batman in the smoke caught it. Cap throwing his shield at its best has cut tank turrets off of tanks, destroyed semi trucks, and moved at super sonic speeds to out move a ballistic missile!!!
Batman in no way is catching a blood lusted shield throw lol.
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Captain America has imo strength, speed, way more stamina , healing over Batman and has enough skill and experience to win, also Cap could suprise Bats with a returning shield to the head.
As far as I'm aware that was before he went into suspended animation.
How did Batman do against Deathstroke? Cap has fought people with versatility before not sure it gives Batman the win. Whats Batman gonna do with gas? The battle takes place in the open. Whats Batman gonna do with explosives? Doesnt Gambit have 'explosives'? What are his batarangs gonna do? Cap hasn't fought anybody throwing stuff at him before?
I didn't see the match but I listened to some of his reasoning and he got stuff wrong. For examples this adept nonsense.
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I agree that it's pretty much Batman's gadgets that make him a potential winner. In straight hth, I'd give it to Cap (though it'd definitely be one of his tougher fights), but when the toys are thrown in it gets iffy.
I'll say in an environment with shadows, Bats. Otherwise, Cap.
Not sure if I can be bothered to get into a long debate but this is one reason why gadgets don't give Batman the win. Cap was fighting TM without his shield and was still holding is own. TM was using gadgets Cap doesn't have and still loses.
I could also mention Caps fight with Bullseye. Bullseye had the advantage and Cap wasn't in his right mind but it ended in a stalemate.
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Seriously? Did you even read the scans? And Bruce's gadgets have KOED Frankenstein, a superman level being in moments in DCnU. Taskmaster has nothing of that caliber. And Paladin KOED Cap with gas in Civil War pretty easily.
And as good as Bullseye is, he doesn't has Batman's gadgets.
I think you're beginning to waste my time if you somehow think those scans prove that Batman wins. If so explain to me what I missed.
Y'know something not too sure if Frankenstein is a superman level being. Anyway something tells me you might be missing out something Batman doesn't carry Superman level Koing gadgets as standard equipment. One shwoing doesn't prove that he does. In fact I've not seen one example of Batman using his gadgets effectively against skilled opponents. Also you're not telling me what gadget he used cos if it's an explosive Caps shield > Superman.
No he didn't Cap was holding his breath and pretending to be Koed. Also that was indoors, if it was outdoors it's going to be harder for it to work cos all Cap needs to do is hold his breath and move away from it.
He doesn't need to Bullseye is more accurate and the fact that he doesn't have explosives and gas doesn't change anything. he's more dangerous with what he has.
No Batman is not more skilled in fact I could argue Cap is more skilled. You're probably basing that on the fact that Batman has said how many martial arts he's mastered, doesn't neccesarily prove anything. For starters Cap has mastered all martial arts.
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