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Juggernaut - Vs- Solomon Grundy
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Take every version of both Juggy and Grundy.. Who would win?
Fight fight would be the most powerful version of Juggy vs the most powerful version of Grundy..
Then down to weaker versions oder to the the weakest version of the 2..
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Jan 9th, 2015 07:56 AM
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DCnU Grundy?
Jan 9th, 2015 07:57 AM
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Cain wins the vast majority. Trion would be the strongest version of Juggernaut, and then when he was very focused during the 8th day, then you have him at classic levels or his average, and then there is what he was when the Wrecking Crew beat him up. That was his weakest. Overall I'd say Juggernaut takes this.
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:10 AM
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Most powerful version of Grundy was ignoring the strongest hits from Superman, Alan Scott, etc, and was powered by some real strong magic.
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:12 AM
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Change it to a different version because as stoic has said, trion is too powerful.
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:13 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Cain wins the vast majority. Trion would be the strongest version of Juggernaut, and then when he was very focused during the 8th day, then you have him at classic levels or his average, and then there is what he was when the Wrecking Crew beat him up. That was his weakest. Overall I'd say Juggernaut takes this.
Nice breakdown Stoic
Jan 9th, 2015 08:14 AM
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There was a thread about this earlier. Grundy would basically absorb Cain's magic. He'd surpass him. Grundy, FTW.
Jan 9th, 2015 08:15 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
Change it to a different version because as stoic has said, trion is too powerful.
It is already different versions of Juggy and Grundy here
Not just there most powerful versions of the 2.
Jan 9th, 2015 08:16 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Golgo13
There was a thread about this earlier. Grundy would basically absorb Cain's magic. He'd surpass him. Grundy, FTW.
Do you think he could absorb the extent of trion which has like all of cytoraks power? Unless Grundy has absorbed something close to that I would say no....
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:17 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Supermex
It is already different versions of Juggy and Grundy here
Not just there most powerful versions of the 2.
My bad, was written a bit confusingly. I do not think there have been many different versions of new 52 grundy....
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:18 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
Do you think he could absorb the extent of trion which has like all of cytoraks power? Unless Grundy has absorbed something close to that I would say no....
If he can absorb Fate and Alan at the same time (While fighting the whole JSA), I think he can take Juggernaut on average. Courtesy of Beatbok's...
quote: unless Grundynis fighting someone who has no energy he's always amped . It's his nature to absorb energy that amps him. When fighting Dr Fate he is enhanced by the magic energy of fate. When fighting Superman he would be amped by Supes store of solar energy. That's why he can Both team bust and be beaten by a street leveler. There's actually one issue where he fought Fate and Alan scot and absorbed so much radiation from a nuclear dump site as well as whatever magic he absorbed from both of them and he manifested very strong TK powers. If Abomination gives off radiation the way hulk than Grundy will amped.
Jan 9th, 2015 08:19 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Golgo13
If he can absorb Fate and Alan at the same time (While fighting the whole JSA), I think he can take Juggernaut on average. Courtesy of Beatbok's...
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads..._11_rougher.jpg
Trion juggernaut rips through dimensions, time and space......
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
My bad, was written a bit confusingly. I do not think there have been many different versions of new 52 grundy....
Sorry about that..
For this Grundy can cross over to preflashpoint version as well..
Jan 9th, 2015 08:43 AM
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Fate can also do that. Yet, Solomon can absorb his energy. Same with Alan.
Jan 9th, 2015 08:47 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Golgo13
Fate can also do that. Yet, Solomon can absorb his energy. Same with Alan.
How much of their energy did he absorb and I thought it was a different dimension grundy that did all of this stuff.
Out of the loop on current new 52 grundy.......
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:52 AM
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Thought it was earth 2
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Jan 9th, 2015 08:53 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thingy150
Thought it was earth 2
Pre 52 Grundy was the energy sponge.
Grundy has always been amped by any ambient energy around him that he absorbs. It's how he has soloed the entire JLA and JSA before (and that's been including Thunder a 5th dimensional imp). In the story where he fought Classic Fate, Alan Scot and Hourman it was even stated that Fate's magic had little affect on him.
He was also amped after being struck by lightning, stated to be the "strongest he had ever been" (to hat point). It was also listed as a part of his powers in the DC Who's who both in the original and the revised editions.
so pre 52 by rights should be a stalemate as Grundy will get as strong as Jugg's get from the magic power (because Grundy is particularly fond of magic energy). He only solos teams because he absorbs the power of all of them and teams win when they are smart enough not to use that energy against him so he can absorb it. Example if Alan scott or Jade fire an energy beam at him it rarely does any harm because his durability is a match for it. But both can and have contained him in an energy bubble (with a LOT of focus) because they aren't directing the energy at him and aren't using it in a way he can absorb.
In one mini Grundy was actually powerful enough to destroy Alan's power battery because as he crushed it he was getting stronger from the energy of it. Alan of course came along and absorbed all the energy back into himself.
Jan 10th, 2015 01:52 PM
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Wow, it sounds like Loeb Force Rulk and Grundy are a perfect matchup! Nice break down.
Jan 11th, 2015 12:58 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Cain wins the vast majority. Trion would be the strongest version of Juggernaut, and then when he was very focused during the 8th day, then you have him at classic levels or his average, and then there is what he was when the Wrecking Crew beat him up. That was his weakest. Overall I'd say Juggernaut takes this.
wow, i was gonna say enigma force juggs, but yeah trion wins this,
Jan 11th, 2015 08:27 AM
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Solomon should still be vulnerable to early all out hits by Juggernaut!
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