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StiltmanFTW
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Werewolf by Night vs. Man-Wolf

Man-Wolf not at his best, basically a version that's the closest power-wise to WBN to make it fair.

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Jun 1st, 2015 10:19 AM

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riv6672
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This is just about an even split, really.

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Henry_Pym
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Star God rapes him, he has ghetto power cosmic.

Classic Spidey rogue level probably loses, as he has no real control but is comfortably ahead stat wise.

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How is he comfortably ahead in stats?
Not saying you're wrong, i just didnt find anything this morning that would lead me to believe that.

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Jun 1st, 2015 12:06 PM

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Classic Spidey rogue level probably loses, as he has no real control but is comfortably ahead stat wise.

Huh?

Werewolf by Night has actually beaten the Hulk once and held his own in a prolonged fight a second time.

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How is he comfortably ahead in stats?
Not saying you're wrong, i just didnt find anything this morning that would lead me to believe that.

Man-wolf is easily in Lizard level strength wise if not stronger. Jack on the other hand I've seen far more often at a bit above cap level.

Jun 1st, 2015 07:02 PM

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He overpowered Creed and choked the shit out of the Hulk...

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Where do you put Jack physically? I've always put him around Spidey level with better Ma skills?

Jun 1st, 2015 10:04 PM

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Creed at that point straight up admitted Jack was stronger iirc.

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Yeah i recall that fight.

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Jun 2nd, 2015 04:57 AM

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I still laugh at Jack straight up choking out hulk.

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StiltmanFTW
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He would do the same to your Superman. Only Superman's neck would get snapped in the process.

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Magic.

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StiltmanFTW
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Where do you put Jack physically? I've always put him around Spidey level with better Ma skills?

Depends on the version. He had at least one upgrade.

Full werewolf form Jack is probably a good deal stronger than Parker.

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Jun 2nd, 2015 08:22 PM

Henry_Pym
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Hey, I'm cool with conceding my earlier point about stats, I know Jack mostly from early monster comics and his Cap team ups. Did the amp come as part of howling commandos?

Jun 2nd, 2015 09:11 PM

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No idea when it happened exactly, but when he fought Creed, he had it. He could basically go from his traditional look to a full werewolf mode. Had control over his actions, too.

Creed was at base - before his first upgrade - but it was still a very impressive showing for Russell.

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Jun 2nd, 2015 09:48 PM

Henry_Pym
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Just out of curiosity I looked at the Marvel wiki, they list him at Cap level.

I guess I'm not the only one.

Jun 2nd, 2015 09:57 PM

StiltmanFTW
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Cap wouldn't overpower Creed. And bios are good for nothing, really. But if you want to play it that way, fine.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Jack_Russell_%28Earth-616%29

http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi.../w/werewolf.htm

Classic form - 1,500 Ibs. Almost twice as strong as Cap, bio-wise.

Full form - Class 1.

PS. At his absolute worst, base Creed was listed at 900 Ibs. Still stronger than Steve, though.

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Henry_Pym
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I wasn't implying you're wrong, I'm sorry if you took it that way, was just pointing out in most appearances Jack is below Spidey by a noticeable margin (class 20-30)

Jameson jr. was treated identically to early lizard.

Jun 3rd, 2015 12:09 AM