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Both are terribly underused.


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Agreed.

Not too knowledgeable about Dragon, but Shen's held his own with martial.artists who could beat down the likes of Bronze Tiger and Batman in straight h2h..


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Shen all day


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Agreed.

Not too knowledgeable about Dragon, but Shen's held his own with martial.artists who could beat down the likes of Bronze Tiger and Batman in straight h2h..


Like who? Scans?

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Like Iron Fist or Shang-Chi.


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Like Iron Fist or Shang-Chi.


Batman has taken on the likes of Val Armorr. Both Bronze Tiger and Dragon have treated Batman like a child.

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When has Dragon fought Batman?

Only seen him sparring with noob Bruce who was on his journey to become Batman?


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When has Dragon fought Batman?

Only seen him sparring with noob Bruce who was on his journey to become Batman?


Early days during RD mini series. He's definitely peers with Shiva and Bronze Tiger.

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Meh, Bronze Tiger got the better of Batman in one encounter like 30 years ago and people still swear by it. These aren't the same way these characters are treated anymore.

In the next encounter, Bruce was poisoned and still nearly beat Bronze Tiger.

Primarily those two showings and the showing against a beat up Deathstroke who already pushed to the limit before encountering Bronze Tiger, Deadshot and a few other guys and still giving them hell before going down [and this was before several upgrades], are what people like to refer to when it comes to Bronze Tiger.

Shiva is better than Bronze Tiger.
Catman had a double KO with Bronze Tiger.
Bronze Tiger struggled with a small child Cassandra.

Batman beat Catman easily.


Cassandra beat Shiva, twice.
Jason Todd outfought Shiva twice.
Batman beat Shiva and stalemater another time.

Batman beat Cassandra, twice.
Tim Drake beat Cassandra.

Batman beat Jason Todd.

David Cain had to come in and save Tiger and a few others in one encounter from getting royally rekt by Shiva. None of them even landed a hit before Cain jumped in.

Batman has beat David Cain also.

Batman went toe to toe with Karate Kid twice. [getting the better once, and on there recieving end once, but did so tactically, giving up use of his belt to position KK in front of Black Lightning ftw.]


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Last time catman encountered batman, he did pretty well.

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Last time catman encountered batman, he did pretty well.
Are you thinking of the time I am, where he got off a few hits consecutively before Batman started curbstomping him and Catman suddenly didn't want to fight anymore?
Or is another more recent than that?


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He got a few decent strikes by surprising Batman at the beginning, but then didn't land another hit again and it ended like this;

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Originally posted by Juntai
He got a few decent strikes by surprising Batman at the beginning, but then didn't land another hit again and it ended like this;

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517030
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517031
that kind of contradicts your previous statement about batman curbstomping him. He landed two hits and Blake caught the third one.


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Also, those "few decent strikes" were actually a very well performed combo:

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Remembered it different, and then went and got the scans.

However, he didn't land another blow after that combo, and all he did was recieve until he said he was done fighting.

Then admitted he lost at the end while trying to save face by saying "I let you win."


Once Batman stopped trying to just play spar and talk to him and went on the offensive, Catman wanted no part of it.


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but as for Dragon, that version of Dragon only lasted a handful of issues, then got retconned out, but he was considered above pretty much everybody at that particular moment in time.

And I don't know much about the other guy.


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but as for Dragon, that version of Dragon only lasted a handful of issues, then got retconned out, but he was considered above pretty much everybody at that particular moment in time.

And I don't know much about the other guy.


Above the likes of Batman, Bronze, or Shiva?

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Originally posted by Juntai
He got a few decent strikes by surprising Batman at the beginning, but then didn't land another hit again and it ended like this;

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517030
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1517031
So it ended with Batman getting 2 strikes and Catman catching the 3rd.

Looks pretty evenly matched.


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