He is flat out invulnerable at greatest and has easily beaten people far above a mere low cosmic/high skyfather being like Tyrant. Like beings who write the laws of the entire universe. They were flat out powerless to stop him.
He is casually fast enough to travel through time, fast enough to rebuild an entire planet that had exploded into tiny chunks in like a panel (so Tyrant is flat out not touching him at all unless Cap wants him to), he can shove giant stars that are made of solid matter at speeds that would be well above FTL. Casually broke a giant block of neutron star material (a mere teaspoon of this stuff would weigh millions of tons) Strong enough to bend a metal that was completely invulnerable to anything except himself, as an example that same metal was so dense that even magical ghosts couldn't walk through it.
He can exist in Infinity, a void outside of the multiverse where nothing can exist at all, and instead of being erased, the marvels were completely ok and flat out stated to be completely indestructible as the reason for their survival.
He hasn't faced anyone who comes even close to tyrant. Most of his comics he faces someone who is going to blow up the earth and deactivates the bomb in time.
There are more examples i recall. I just have to remember the incidents.
He travels through time through the rock of eternity. Like, every time.
...Is that supposed to be impressive?
You do realize he's facing Tyrant? Galactus had to devour a planet to face him and he avoided a conflict with him because it would destroy the universe. At full power a battle between galactus and tyrant destroyed galaxies. Yet here you are, mentioning planet/star level feats.
Also, like i said, more examples coming on his limitations.
The multiverse didn't even exist back then. At most, his comics featured some other dimension. So what are you even talking about?
The Marvel family strained itself to push back an iceberg or something.
Marvel family have also struggled to push back a regular ship from what i recall, as well as fully exhausted after being subjected to some pressure from the boiler. More-so, i remember CM being vulnerable to telepathy and his strength has been ineffective a number of times. Mostly he never faced powerful menaces but there was the occasional space creatures like the space dragon whom CM wasn't able to destroy no matter how hard he tried and eventually destroyed him with an atomic bomb iirc. I remember all those but couldn't pinpoint the issues, so maybe ill search for them later on. This should be enough though. The whole marvel family is nowhere near Tyrant.
Thats a great job lowballing, but it doesnt negate the Marvel Family's high end feats.
What you've cited speaks to that era's childish/cartoony writing, but that same cartoonish style aso has CM do things like CosmicComet listed.
While not trying to pick a favorite, i cant let one or the other character just get nerfed.
And btw, these are not lowballing, they are average portrayals. Like i said, his regular comic has him going against humans devising a bomb to blow up the earth. He only occasionally goes up against some space creatures or aliens who are nowhere near cosmic level characters like the tyrant. I fail to see what's impressive about what CosmicComet mentioned. Planet/star level feats are completely irrelevant in regards to tyrant. And that's the upper limit of CM.
If you arent going to give credence to any evidence except what you yourself present, and call spite when disagreed with, well, its an efficient, if juvenile way to debate.
What are you talking about? It's not like im denying CM's feats, im saying that even his best pale in comparison with Tyrant's.
The other scans were supposed to disprove the claims of CM being completely invulnerable (which mostly stems from the fact that he didn't really face any really powerful menaces) or operating at a level anywhere near Tyrant.
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