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who can beat or match reed richards feats of intelligence?

round 1. has to be a comic company

round 2. any medium of fiction.

whether it be prep, building tech, solving issues it doesn't matter, the whole nine yards.


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Re: who can beat or match reed richards feats of intelligence?

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round 1. has to be a comic company

round 2. any medium of fiction.

whether it be prep, building tech, solving issues it doesn't matter, the whole nine yards.


In round 2, The Doctor (from Doctor Who) is definitely > Reed. And I say that with full knowledge and respect for Reed's prowess.

In comics, you'd be hard pressed to pick one that's definitely above him. Pre-Crisis Brainiac 5 is a good answer, and there may be others. But Reed is definitely the standard bearer.


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In round 2, The Doctor (from Doctor Who) is definitely > Reed. And I say that with full knowledge and respect for Reed's prowess.


Beat me to it.

In comics you might be able to say the Doctor from Wildstorm, ONY because i see him as a rip off of Dr Who.

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Yeah in terms of pure feats, Reed is hard to beat in comics, especially due to the fact he's had so many appearances compared to other geniuses. Even people who are meant to be smarter like Thanos, Galactus or Braniac have nowhere near as many appearances, and as such pure feats as Reed does. Plus many of these characters have other advantages, such as cosmic awareness or other weird knowledge that isn't strictly intelligence but informs such things.

But yeah as for 2, as Digi said, The Doctor is notably above Reed (or practically anyone in fiction).


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Beat me to it.

In comics you might be able to say the Doctor from Wildstorm, ONY because i see him as a rip off of Dr Who.


Lacks enough feats, and frequently acted like a dumbass. If there were a case to be made for WS Doctor, believe me, I'd make it. But in this case, there isn't.

But yeah, as KFish mentioned, the Doctor (DW) is probably the biggest intelligence-based plot device in fiction. It's kind of hilarious once you just accept it. I've compared him to Constantine before, except John works with magic instead of (fictional) science. But it's not a truly accurate comparison. If Constantine is up against an omnipotent evil, he'd trick him or manage to barely survive. The Doctor would foil his plan with, like, a first aid kit and a laptop, then get pissed and send him into an empty, inescapable dimension for eternity or something.


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Yeah, Doctor is hard to beat in that scenario.

That scene with Matt Smith beating The Silence with a TV is one of my favorite scenes in any media.

Heck Donna with a partial knowledge of Doctor's intelligence casually deactivated a reality bomb which was going to destroy entire reality after Davros claimed it could not be stopped.


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I'd say Alexander Luthor Jr. can match him.

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Honestly, i barely watch Doctor Who. How smart exactly is he? What's so great about him? How powerful is he?


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Honestly, i barely watch Doctor Who. How smart exactly is he? What's so great about him? How powerful is he?


Sorry, thought I replied to this earlier today.

The time Lords as a race have watched all of time through to it's end. In the earliest series it was established that The Doctor was the first member of the race to actively participate (along with with his adversary the master). He is basically aware of every piece of technology that is has or ever will exist. Completely understands every type of science from the beginning of time to it's end. He casually overpowers cosmic entities with his sheer intellectual brilliance.

There is no genius in any other medium that comes close to the Doctor that I'm aware of.

As mentioned by Abhi one of his human aids had PART of his mind for only a few moments and could fathom the unfathomable. could circumvent weapons capable of multiversal destruction

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Sorry, thought I replied to this earlier today.

The time Lords as a race have watched all of time through to it's end. In the earliest series it was established that The Doctor was the first member of the race to actively participate (along with with his adversary the master). He is basically aware of every piece of technology that is has or ever will exist. Completely understands every type of science from the beginning of time to it's end. He casually overpowers cosmic entities with his sheer intellectual brilliance.

There is no genius in any other medium that comes close to the Doctor that I'm aware of.

As mentioned by Abhi one of his human aids had PART of his mind for only a few moments and could fathom the unfathomable. could circumvent weapons capable of multiversal destruction
Actually you did reply to one my post that asked the same question. Funny enough, i myself thought i posted that question here but instead posted it on that other thread.


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True Brainiac could as well.

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Actually you did reply to one my post that asked the same question. Funny enough, i myself thought i posted that question here but instead posted it on that other thread.


I actually think beatboks is a little too rosy. It's not that the Doctor knows everything from across time instantly. He encounters stuff all the time that he doesn't immediately understand or recognize. But he's amazingly clever. So like, he rarely does much with prep (though he has), because he's mostly just adventuring about. But he'll figure out and foil insanely complicated, powerful villain plots like a time traveling McGuyver.

It also helps that, if he really does need prep, his time machine could easily be rigged to unleash universal (multiversal?) power, and in fact has been on occasion.


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