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Classic Kingpin vs. Batman h2h only

Fight takes place in a dark alley way in Gotham. They can only go h2h. Batman has his suit, but no belt and no cape.

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The suit makes the difference. Batman FTW.

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Fisk takes this more often than not. Look at his battles with DD. If Batman won, it would be by the narrowest of margins. He could win, but it would be by way of a lucky shot/

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This...actually happened in a crossover. KP was clearly shown to be the superior. Canon or not, I think it was an accurate portrayal.

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batman but slightly

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This...actually happened in a crossover. KP was clearly shown to be the superior. Canon or not, I think it was an accurate portrayal.

Huh? It was a stalemate, actually.

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Fisk takes this more often than not. Look at his battles with DD. If Batman won, it would be by the narrowest of margins. He could win, but it would be by way of a lucky shot/

DD is no Batman and Bruce's suit allows him to takes hits from Bane on venom. Plus armored gauntlets are a part of his suit and increases his striking power. Bats kicks are powerful enough to break a motorcycle in half with one strike. Bats wins more often than not against Fisk by getting skilled shots in not lucky shots.

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WTF?

Who cares about Batman's silly little suit???

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WW is the God of War here. Batman is out of his suit, and so badly injured he in the preceding page, was complaining that it hurt to laugh.

WW surprises hits him from behind, outside of the suit, which would lower his durability by at least 2000%.

And then there's this:
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She's not pulling her punches. Smashing him through concrete etc.

And this is WITHOUT his suit.

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WTF?

Who cares about Batman's silly little suit???

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WW is the God of War here. Batman is out of his suit, and so badly injured he in the preceding page, was complaining that it hurt to laugh.

WW surprises hits him from behind, outside of the suit, which would lower his durability by at least 2000%.

And then there's this:
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She's not pulling her punches. Smashing him through concrete etc.

And this is WITHOUT his suit.

This ties well with our discussion on the other thread of Batman being 'human.' smile

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Huh? It was a stalemate, actually.

The fight was brief and was interrupted, but KP was shown to be superior iirc, no? I remember Bruce even saying something to that effect. Maybe someone has the scan. I do...somewhere, but it's not a big enough deal for me to dig it up.

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^^^Is this what you're talking about?

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This is pretty cool:

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^^^Is this what you're talking about?

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It would have to be. Is that the whole fight? Also, the second image is super small. Can't really read the text.

Anyway, my opinion holds, though I may have conflated that particular showing in my mind.

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When did Bats fight Fisk? Was it in that Spidey crossover with Carnage and Joker?

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Here's the 2nd page but larger:
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...so yeah, Bats can't trade blows with him but can "pick his shots." So yeah, stalemate, more or less. I think it was the same comic Fisk easily moved a metal door that Bats couldn't budge, so he was definitely shown to be >> in strength.

Other amusing evidence:

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With suit Batman wins

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huh, can't believe i have never seen or read that arc where bats met fisk.... i better showing for fisk i'd say than for bats for sure. but seriously, i have to wonder how firmly to accept that writing. the author actually had fisk say 'capeesh'? wtf?? hard to have a character say something more ooc.

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Here's another fight showcasing his strength and speed. Classic KP was at least Class 10 (which is what Spidey officially was at the time, though his best feats even then were far better), and nearly as fast as Spidey, ridiculous as that sounds:
http://i.imgur.com/XofD7eq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QpFrtPF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FEDCgeg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ekvSCly.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/O3VGSpj.jpg

I really do think he'd take it to Bats minus any gadgets.

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When did Bats fight Fisk? Was it in that Spidey crossover with Carnage and Joker?

No. At least I don't think so. There were two Batman/Spidey crossovers in the 90s. The Carnage/Joker one was separate iirc.

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No. At least I don't think so. There were two Batman/Spidey crossovers in the 90s. The Carnage/Joker one was separate iirc.

I also recall them doing a Daredevil one to but I don't recall the art being this good.

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