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marcssands14
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Smile Tv punisher vs Nolan Batman

Batman has 1 hour if prep. Fight is on top a warehouse roof. Punisher is fighting to kill.Who wins?

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This belongs in the movie vs forum. With that said, Frank beats Batman silly before murdering him.


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Ok. Can someone move this to the movie vs forum

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Frank shoots him or stomps him in H2H


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Screw Nolan Batman. Punisher 10/10.


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Batman wins.

He knocked out like a dozen fully armed mobsters in 21 seconds on the dock and then walked off like it was cake.

In Dark Knight, we see him invade a night-club and knock out like 8 guys in 20 seconds again.

In Dark Knight Rises, even after his body is breaking down, he and Catwoman fought and smashed a dozen of Bane's henchmen, who were likely League of Shadow, as he mentioned "they're not street thugs, these are trained killers", in about 20 seconds without difficulty.

And if we wanted to get technical the anime Gotham Knight is considered Canon to the Nolan movies, and he was basically teleporting around smashing the shit out of people in it.

Nolan makes some action scenes go full speed, and others he slows down on purpose, because its not just an 'action beat', the entire thing is part of his storytelling narrative. So there's this impression that because some scenes he looks to be moving slow motion, like against Bane, that he's actually slow. No. he's actually a goddamn Bat-whirlwind of kickass.


Punisher nearly died fighting 8 dudes and used weapons on most of them and took almost 3 minutes.


He doesn't stand a chance.


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Punisher easily. Throw Bane in as well, make it half a contest.

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And if we wanted to get technical the anime Gotham Knight is considered Canon to the Nolan movies, and he was basically teleporting around smashing the shit out of people in it.

Bwa-the-haha-F'ing-HA.


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Originally posted by Juntai
Batman wins.

He knocked out like a dozen fully armed mobsters in 21 seconds on the dock and then walked off like it was cake.

In Dark Knight, we see him invade a night-club and knock out like 8 guys in 20 seconds again.

In Dark Knight Rises, even after his body is breaking down, he and Catwoman fought and smashed a dozen of Bane's henchmen, who were likely League of Shadow, as he mentioned "they're not street thugs, these are trained killers", in about 20 seconds without difficulty.

And if we wanted to get technical the anime Gotham Knight is considered Canon to the Nolan movies, and he was basically teleporting around smashing the shit out of people in it.

Nolan makes some action scenes go full speed, and others he slows down on purpose, because its not just an 'action beat', the entire thing is part of his storytelling narrative. So there's this impression that because some scenes he looks to be moving slow motion, like against Bane, that he's actually slow. No. he's actually a goddamn Bat-whirlwind of kickass.


Punisher nearly died fighting 8 dudes and used weapons on most of them and took almost 3 minutes.


He doesn't stand a chance.
no expression are you joking? Just because 21 seconds elapsed in real time, that doesn't mean that he was moving that fast.

In the Dark knight, we also see him struggle with dogs, struggle with the Jokers normal henchmen, an struggle with the joker too (none of whom are skilled).

See my first response to the rediculous notion that twenty seconds actually elapsed in their time for this feat.

Batman struggled and got the crap beaten out of him by bane while Frank disarmed and killed 8 prisoners carrying weapons and then he proceeded to evenly fight kingpin (a person that can decapitate other people with a car door and who also fought and nearly beat Murdock).

We've also seen how Frank (without armor and after getting ambushed) performs against an armored, fast moving martial artist in his first fight with Daredevil. The funny thing is that we've also seen Matt beat the everloving daylights out of the hand ninjas that he's come across and even while he was injured and half dead, he still beat the shit out of about ten thugs (to say nothing of how he fought the bikers while injured)

Frank also beat and killed three more soldiers in his fight at the diner and he the proceeded to kill a few dozen more. Oh and he also disarmed and knocked out a cop within three seconds in his first appearance.


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Reads like sarcasm on second go.

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Nobody said anything about guns so Bale Bats will be showing us if he can catch bullets with his teeth


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He can catch them with his whole body.


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He can catch them with his whole body.
yeah, I love the Nolan movies, but Bruce was just lackluster all around. Meanwhile, Frank apparently soloed several squads of other soldiers and secured an LZ by himself while his squad thought it was certain death. I just can't see Bruce winning when Frank casually beat daredevil into the ground while being ambushed from behind and without the armor that he aquires by the end of season 2.


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Originally posted by Juntai
Batman wins.

He knocked out like a dozen fully armed mobsters in 21 seconds on the dock and then walked off like it was cake.

In Dark Knight, we see him invade a night-club and knock out like 8 guys in 20 seconds again.

In Dark Knight Rises, even after his body is breaking down, he and Catwoman fought and smashed a dozen of Bane's henchmen, who were likely League of Shadow, as he mentioned "they're not street thugs, these are trained killers", in about 20 seconds without difficulty.

And if we wanted to get technical the anime Gotham Knight is considered Canon to the Nolan movies, and he was basically teleporting around smashing the shit out of people in it.

Nolan makes some action scenes go full speed, and others he slows down on purpose, because its not just an 'action beat', the entire thing is part of his storytelling narrative. So there's this impression that because some scenes he looks to be moving slow motion, like against Bane, that he's actually slow. No. he's actually a goddamn Bat-whirlwind of kickass.


Punisher nearly died fighting 8 dudes and used weapons on most of them and took almost 3 minutes.


He doesn't stand a chance.


Castle also beat down Matt.


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Bruce beats Matt, also.
He was decidedly meta.
He can drop leagues of dudes in seconds, and even fell from a skyscraper and crushed a car and walked away.
He jumped from the top of a parking garage and brought an escaping van to an instant stop and he smashed it into a van-cake.

Bane's punches were enough that when Batman ghosted out of the way, Bane blew a whole into a concrete pillar and cracked it.

Daredevil through the course of the series just gets the piss beat out of him constantly. He can barely survive random goons and mobsters.

That Hallway scene Bruce would have ran down and clobbered in seconds.

Bruce tends to one-shot most everyone he runs into, while DD has to hit dudes a ****ing ton it seems.

One ****ing shot and Daredevil would be damn near broken. And Bats is RIDICULOUSLY faster in combat.


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Was hoping for sarcasm

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He also has prep.

Ambushes Castle, puts a jury rigged jacket with a hook on him as a plane flies by.

Btw, Kingpin didn't decapitate that goon with the car door in one hit....did he?


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^^^one hour, and this isnt comics Bats, who can do anything.

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Bruce beats Matt, also.

Not THIS Bruce.
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He was decidedly meta.

He was decidedly not.
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Bane's punches were enough that when Batman ghosted out of the way, Bane blew a whole into a concrete pillar and cracked it.

Romanticized description, nice.
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Daredevil through the course of the series just gets the piss beat out of him constantly. He can barely survive random goons and mobsters.

Biased description, also nice.
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That Hallway scene Bruce would have ran down and clobbered in seconds.

Opinion as fact.
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Bruce tends to one-shot most everyone he runs into, while DD has to hit dudes a ****ing ton it seems.

Seems to you, but then you say Bruce one shotted most everyone in those movies; your perception of reality cant really be trusted.
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One ****ing shot and Daredevil would be damn near broken. And Bats is RIDICULOUSLY faster in combat.

Opinion presented as fact.


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One hour of prep? IIRC, when he extradited the guy from Hong Kong, it was all his own resources.

Assuming of course that this battle at the top of a warehouse takes place within a flying distance of a plane owned by Wayne Enterprises....all Bruce needs to prep for is to get the harness he already owns and knows works.


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One hour of prep? IIRC, when he extradited the guy from Hong Kong, it was all his own resources.

Using ones own resources doesnt equate to an hour of prep, but, hey, whatevs.


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