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Sise-Neg vs. Imperiex

Old Post May 21st, 2017 01:04 AM
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Re: Sise-Neg vs. Imperiex

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Sise-Neg (like Genesis):

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...1-siseneg12.jpg

vs.

Imperiex:

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...594p16and17.jpg

Who wins this fight?


Actually a very good fight. And a close one.

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Sise-Neg. Not even close.

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Sise-Neg. Not even close.

How?Both have the energy of a Big Bang. Both had more or less he same max feat. Two Universal (main Universe at that) beings duking it out. If at all I would lean towards the Entropy giving Imperiex a slight edge.

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How?Both have the energy of a Big Bang. Both had more or less he same max feat. Two Universal (main Universe at that) beings duking it out. If at all I would lean towards the Entropy giving Imperiex a slight edge.


Imperiex doesn't possess the energy of a Big Bang. He has energy from the galaxies he destroys. He induces/triggers big bangs by destroying the current universe and does this through a hollowing process involving technological manipulation of nexus points.

Imperiex' feats include destroying Doomsday and warding off the assault by Daxam. The conventional forces battling him are able to destroy his ship and use their firepower to maneuver him into position for the final assault.

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Imperiex doesn't possess the energy of a Big Bang.
Still trying to peddle this ill-informed BS, I see? laughing out loud

Imperiex absolutely DOES contain the energies of a big bang... We saw him release a big bang ON PANEL, ffs:
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This fact is even corroborated by his canon bio:
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...Don't know why I even wasted the time to post this evidence, though... You're just going to ignore it all anyway, lol. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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BOOM!

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SMH. Bios are not canon. The post #19 poster in the below link sums it up thoroughly so I don't have to waste time with you. Point #7 of his post addresses your rather self serving interpretation of what the artwork shows. You would do better sticking to hype labels. "Imperiex is the embodiment of flatulence. He can't be beat" LOL.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...essage-11862158

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laughing out loud

Boy, did I call that:
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...Don't know why I even wasted the time to post this evidence, though... You're just going to ignore it all anyway, lol. roll eyes (sarcastic)




Troll on, troll!! thumb up


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Chump's response ^.

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"Engine of creation fires twice, two universes born simultaneously, engulfing one another, juxtaposing Infinity atop Infinity until two become one become everything".

How can any one think that wasn't a big bang explosion atop another big bang? It's stated as clearly as it can be.

Hulkster is still crying over Imperiex I see.


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Originally posted by TheHulkster
SMH. Bios are not canon. The post #19 poster in the below link sums it up thoroughly so I don't have to waste time with you. Point #7 of his post addresses your rather self serving interpretation of what the artwork shows. You would do better sticking to hype labels. "Imperiex is the embodiment of flatulence. He can't be beat" LOL.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...essage-11862158

laughing out loud

The best circlejerk I've seen in a long time.

"Brainiac 13 is barely above herald level. Superman isn't that strong. Odin is universal level".

Marvel zombies are really hilarious. In DC everyone is scaled down compared to Superman because obviously Superman isn't that strong.


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Imperiex doesn't possess the energy of a Big Bang. He has energy from the galaxies he destroys. He induces/triggers big bangs by destroying the current universe and does this through a hollowing process involving technological manipulation of nexus points.

Imperiex' feats include destroying Doomsday and warding off the assault by Daxam. The conventional forces battling him are able to destroy his ship and use their firepower to maneuver him into position for the final assault.


It was shown on panel (Thanks @Galan and @Abhi again) that he indeed has the power of the big bang, like Genesis. You are ill informed or you have a versy strange interpretation of the panel which I don't share. So let's agree to disagree. For you Imperiex has no Universal energy like Sissy and for me he does, like shown in the panel.

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It was shown on panel (Thanks @Galan and @Abhi again) that he indeed has the power of the big bang, like Genesis. You are ill informed or you have a versy strange interpretation of the panel which I don't share. So let's agree to disagree. For you Imperiex has no Universal energy like Sissy and for me he does, like shown in the panel.


The panel below is very specific with regard to what is inside of Imperiex:

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Can you explain how this jibes with containing Big Bang energy? They are going to channel that energy back to the galaxies they came from. Would not one who reads this scene be fairly well informed?

Abhi's scans show repeated reference to him igniting or triggering a Big Bang. Superman also states that Imperiex will survive the Big Bang. All of such statements imply that the Big Bang is something separate from Imperiex that he triggers and survives. The panels you reference show his energy being dispersed within the Big Bang that he triggers at the beginning of time. THAT jibes with the very specific details shown in the scan above.

I have seen several instances where Bios contradict something stated by an editor or writer and when asked about it, the writers and/or editors state that they have nothing to do with nor control over handbook writers. They are fans who have managed to be chosen to write bios and they make mistakes. Bios are not canon.

Now again, I'm curious as to how your opinion jibes with the dialogue in the scan above.

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Serious question, how did Imperiex's design get past DC?

Off topic I know, but it's f*cking disgraceful thumb up

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Originally posted by TheHulkster
The panel below is very specific with regard to what is inside of Imperiex:

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Can you explain how this jibes with containing Big Bang energy? They are going to channel that energy back to the galaxies they came from. Would not one who reads this scene be fairly well informed?

Abhi's scans show repeated reference to him igniting or triggering a Big Bang. Superman also states that Imperiex will survive the Big Bang. All of such statements imply that the Big Bang is something separate from Imperiex that he triggers and survives. The panels you reference show his energy being dispersed within the Big Bang that he triggers at the beginning of time. THAT jibes with the very specific details shown in the scan above.

I have seen several instances where Bios contradict something stated by an editor or writer and when asked about it, the writers and/or editors state that they have nothing to do with nor control over handbook writers. They are fans who have managed to be chosen to write bios and they make mistakes. Bios are not canon.

Now again, I'm curious as to how your opinion jibes with the dialogue in the scan above.


Very easily. You even say it. The dialogue of the characters is not accurate, the statement of the narrator however is. A character saying he is god might be hyperbole, a character saying this is that or this might be wrong but the narrator describing what happens is more valid, hence if the narrator states that "the engine of creation fires twice... two universes born simultaneously" logic demands that this is more true than the dialogue or statement of a character.

Of course, if Imperiex himself would state that he has the energies of just Galaxies I could see your stance as more reasonable and the contradiction you might see. Why should he lowball himself. However if it's a narration of what we see, I just can't agree with you preferring a statement of a "lesser" being over the narrator.

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It's also preceded in the scan by 'from what's we understand'.


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OMG, you guys have gone full fanboy. And I was called a "troll". Now you are erroneously claiming that the two page spread of dialogue is "inaccurate". LOL. I'm sure that's what Loeb was going for.

You give props to the same Abhi who treats a cryptic speaking Oblivion, who says that something may be an illusion, as speaking undeniable facts, yet a serious analysis by Darkseid, Atom, Luther and other high level scientists is "innacurate".

Then somehow the statement "the engine of creation fires twice... two universes born simultaneously" is a statement referencing the type of energy within Imperiex's armor. The rationalization hamster is spinning right now.

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Am just saying (wasn't involved with the illusions convo) that the full sentence is 'from what we understand'.

Was it right? Was it wrong? Well, later on, we see the whole two universe scan thing. We see that there is a discrepancy (as you point out).

So were they wrong?


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Where did I say there was a discrepancy or contradiction?

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