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Zealot Vs Shang-Chi

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Zealot stomps in both


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Zealot stomps in both
Stop. Feeding. Him.


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Stop. Feeding. Him.


Meh, agreed, but there'll always be someone who doesn't realize what he's doing, or who forgets to check the OP before posting. He's only wasting his own time with his approach to discussion here; any time wasted on our part is insignificant compared to that.

/srug


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Shang Chi ends him.


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Stop. Feeding. Him.

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Meh, agreed, but there'll always be someone who doesn't realize what he's doing, or who forgets to check the OP before posting. He's only wasting his own time with his approach to discussion here; any time wasted on our part is insignificant compared to that.

/srug


Hes trolling? What did i miss?


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Hes trolling? What did i miss?


Zach makes an inordinate number of threads where the DC person is above a Marvel person, and consistently seems less interested in discussion than simply promoting and gushing over everything DC does.


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Meh, agreed, but there'll always be someone who doesn't realize what he's doing, or who forgets to check the OP before posting. He's only wasting his own time with his approach to discussion here; any time wasted on our part is insignificant compared to that.

/srug
*sigh* You got me there.
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Zach makes an inordinate number of threads where the DC person is above a Marvel person, and consistently seems less interested in discussion than simply promoting and gushing over everything DC does.

This. And if anyone tries to legitimately make a case for the Marvel character, he proceeds to bash the poster over the head with feats that are far out of the marvel characters capabilities.


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Shang wins.

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Zach makes an inordinate number of threads where the DC person is above a Marvel person, and consistently seems less interested in discussion than simply promoting and gushing over everything DC does.


Lol...yea i just looked. Thx 4 the heads up


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Zach makes an inordinate number of threads where the DC person is above a Marvel person, and consistently seems less interested in discussion than simply promoting and gushing over everything DC does.


lol, you should see the movie forum.


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I mean, this stupidity is less overtly antagonistic than a lot of trolling that goes on. Zach may not actually be a deliberate troll with the DC stuff, but it also doesn't engender him to many posters when there doesn't seem to be a desire to actually debate or discuss the matches. With my favorites, I consider it a hallmark of my fandom to celebrate their flaws and limitations. And while I don't expect everyone to approach fandom the same way, it's disappointing when the exact opposite approach is taken, as it often is in a vs. setting.


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I mean, this stupidity is less overtly antagonistic than a lot of trolling that goes on. Zach may not actually be a deliberate troll with the DC stuff, but it also doesn't engender him to many posters when there doesn't seem to be a desire to actually debate or discuss the matches. With my favorites, I consider it a hallmark of my fandom to celebrate their flaws and limitations. And while I don't expect everyone to approach fandom the same way, it's disappointing when the exact opposite approach is taken, as it often is in a vs. setting.


Who are your favorites?


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I mean, this stupidity is less overtly antagonistic than a lot of trolling that goes on. Zach may not actually be a deliberate troll with the DC stuff, but it also doesn't engender him to many posters when there doesn't seem to be a desire to actually debate or discuss the matches. With my favorites, I consider it a hallmark of my fandom to celebrate their flaws and limitations. And while I don't expect everyone to approach fandom the same way, it's disappointing when the exact opposite approach is taken, as it often is in a vs. setting.


Yeah. I'd rather read an interesting story where they fail, than a boring one where they succeed.


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Every once in a while, Zack makes a solid thread, just through through sheer number of attempts. I can't see Zealot or Shang stomping each other, unless one had some massive upgrades recently.
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With my favorites, I consider it a hallmark of my fandom to celebrate their flaws and limitations.

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I've always felt "true" fans are better this, since they understand the typical depiction of their bae. Respect thread fans, conversely, get a pretty skewed understanding of their character I've noticed. Nothing inherently wrong with respect threads of course, but it certainly can stifle discussion when the average poster only sees a character dialing to 11.

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Every once in a while, Zack makes a solid thread, just through through sheer number of attempts. I can't see Zealot or Shang stomping each other, unless one had some massive upgrades recently.

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I've always felt "true" fans are better this, since they understand the typical depiction of their bae. Respect thread fans, conversely, get a pretty skewed understanding of their character I've noticed. Nothing inherently wrong with respect threads of course, but it certainly can stifle discussion when the average poster only sees a character dialing to 11.


Nah, I think he knew what he was doing on this one. Zealot's a beast.

I've made lots of respect threads, which of course are weighted toward ONLY good feats most of the time. So like you say, I don't think that's bad, in and of itself. In fact, with some I've made (my old Authority one is a good example) it was very educational for KMC, because at the time not many people knew who the Authority was or what they could do.

But you're right that it can create a skewed mentality.

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Who are your favorites?


Spider-Man, the Authority, Alan Scott (pre-FP JSA as a whole), Doctor Who, The Tick, He-Man, Adam Warlock, Death's Head (both I and II), Kingpin, off the top of my head.

There's the "I know more about them than most, so I can defend them better" phenomenon, which has been true for me on occasion. I've argued for all of those characters in numerous threads. But I also can cite specific instances where I was on the opposite side, or where I was advocating for a less generous interpretation of a feat, and it was in threads where there was a reasonable case to be made for either combatant or side. Most of those listed are interesting to me because of who they are (Spider-Man) or what they represent (Doctor Who), or the unique ways they can affect a story (Warlock, Kingpin, Authority). Or because they're just fun (He-Man, Tick, Death's Head). So I'll geek out at a huge Spidey or Alan feat, for example, but that's never been why I'm into them.


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Nah, I think he knew what he was doing on this one. Zealot's a beast.

I've made lots of respect threads, which of course are weighted toward ONLY good feats most of the time. So like you say, I don't think that's bad, in and of itself. In fact, with some I've made (my old Authority one is a good example) it was very educational for KMC, because at the time not many people knew who the Authority was or what they could do.

But you're right that it can create a skewed mentality.

His pick, of course, isn't in doubt. Zealot's a beast. I'm just saying it's not a stomp, like the usual full-powered Grifter vs a street or something.

It's a just a super good MAist vs another one here. The margin of victory for either won't be large.

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Will be interesting to see how Shang performs against Iron-Fist this next issue. Although Shang is being mind-controlled.

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Will be interesting to see how Shang performs against Iron-Fist this next issue. Although Shang is being mind-controlled.


Iron Fist comic?

Haven't actually read it yet.


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