WWH without Worldbreaker. Rebirth Superman without Sundips
The stipulations here is that this is a shot for shot type of brawl. What this means my good man is that each fighter takes turns landing attacks on the other. They can't avoid, but they can brace. They each get 20 feet of movement to land whatever attack they can. They have to wait for the other person to attack until they can attack again, but they can take as little or as much time to attack as long as they hit their target within 1 second of winding up, and their continuous attack can only land for one second, but the damage over time sticks. No bfr but they can go anywhere on the planet. No T-Vo or whatever energy shenanigans Hulk does.
They both have their full powers otherwise.
Basically, Superman can punch Hulk through mountains until he blows up Zopzop's patio set 3 mountains over, but he can't heat vision him for an hour. He can fully freeze Hulk but he can't keep blowing cold at him. Hulk can't eat him either, a bite sure, but no chewing.
Let's add Herc to that question as well. How much more powerful is Superman punch in comparison to Herc punch (he just had a ft of stopping the movement of a planet)?
The first step is to toss denial out the window. Then the healing can begin. I did this a while back, and you know what? It's not that bad admitting that Superman would beat the shit out of the Hulk.
Look into the mirror Carver, deep into your own eyes, and say it with me. Superman beats the Hulk.
You know it deep down inside. Just let go of those Hulk demons stuck into the gray areas of your brain, and just say it.
Superman at his best non sun amped self would have beaten Grand Master Prime. This is why Superman will always beat the Hulk. The Hulk can't fly, and he may as well be a big wheel in comparison to a Corvette in terms of speed. Or a piece of dung always being stepped on by crowds of New Yorker's in flip flops on a rainy day.
It would always be a one sided slap fest in favor of Superman unless their speed were equalized, or Hulk had some way of getting in a hit.
Logically speaking he really doesn't have an answer for the speed. I mean sure he can react like he did with GM Prime, but it would already be too late, he'd be sailing off into deep space holding the L card.
Just look into that mirror okay. It will be fine, just eat a cookie, and shake it off.
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Last edited by Stoic on May 13th, 2018 at 07:18 PM
Wait a minute. Why do you think Superman wouldve beaten Grandmaster?
Also, Hulk wouldve defeated Kalibak and Mantis. Hulk wouldve taken out Konvikt. Hulk wouldve dropped Zod son. All of these people have koed Superman. What kind of debating is this?
At this point, its debatable if Superman have the strength to even lift Hulk off of his feet. He was standing in a sink spot tanking licks from both Thor and Herc.
Superman gets wrecked. Dont know why you keep bringing up Grandmaster. He was obviously above top tier.
You think I'd make a "Get in here Carver!" thread without giving Hulk the best chance he has to contend against Superman's raw might concentrated in his single attacks?
This is a shot for shot style battle. The only way Hulk doesn't hit Superman is if Superman takes him out in an attack. Superman still gets his speed, just not to avoid attacks or land infinity plus 1 attacks to Hulk's zero attacks.
Pretty much the fairest type of fight I could make of this. Even the "slugfests" turn into Superman being too fast for Hulk, and removing his speed takes away from his single attacks.
So yeah, rethink the battle based on that. I personally am on the fence.
I promise you Hulk hits harder than the people that did this. Thing is, consistently, for the past 10 yrs, you'll be hard pressed finding anything close to Hulk being knocked out like this and the one thing youll find (sun God), context was involved.
Well since the Hulk has no HF here (is this a correct assumption?), I would assume that a planetary level punch would end things the moment that the Hulk got hit. And this is WW Hulk who was given a hard limit to his stats.
In a comic or live scenario the Hulk would always lose because he would lack the ability to ramp up in time before the darkness came to claim him. WW Hulk had the ability to ramp up to planetary plus levels in an instant but forum rules regarding WW Hulk has prohibited him from rising above anything seen during that arc.
SMH. Planetary hit? Really???? What if Hulk hit Superman with the same hit, what would happen? Even without his healing factor he can withstand hits from elites. Scans of a high end person dropping Hulk before he ramps up.
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