congrats on using one fight in which he didn't use any of his exotic powers. Now, in this fight, he's going to wait until juggernaught is thirty feet from him, cancel the effect of gravity on Cain, make a pit of lava where Cain falls, use his tk to fully push Juggernaut into the lava, and then throw up a time bubble that immediately turns the lava into 100 year old solid rock. Juggernaut suffocates and Ronan walks away without any damage.
i used it as an example of how he can stand up to a trans leveler like thanos. using his powers or not, the fact he went down after 2 punches speaks for itself. he is not on that trans level
It's odd that you think a character needs to be trans level in order to own a team. Doctor Doom has smacked down entire teams before, but nobody here thinks he's trans. What's even more odd is that you use Ronan jobbing like it's proof of anything.
where did i say one has to be a trans leveler to own a team? reading comprehension. regardless of the statement he beat the avengers, i said he is not trans tier because he was owned easily by thanos.
so now thanos beating up ronan = jobbing? really? please show me his superior showings that put him at normal, as someone who thanos cant take out with 2 punches.
as I recall, Spider-Man has made a statement regarding how he needs to breathe, Deadpool has stated that he needs to breathe, and there are probably a few more instances. Either way, Ronan uses his tk to hold juggs under the lava and lets him suffocate. When the character in question uses literally none of the powers that they often use and decide to fight like a brick? Yes, that is jobbing/PIS.
Wait, why would you say Ronan was jobbing and not using his powers and then use the Black Dwarf example?
He did the same attack against Thanos as he did against Black Dwarf. I'm pretty sure Starlin copied it
That being said, Juggy is no Thanos. I'd be curious to see what a capable writer would do with this sort of fight. Ronan hits probably harder than Glads, but I don't think it'd turn out too well going h2h.
I posted the black dwarf fight so that DA could see an example of ronan's physical strength. I then backed that up with several scans of where he is when he uses his more exotic powers. Sorry if I wasn't super clear about that.