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Black Canary vs Iron Fist

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Definitely Iron Fist. He could dodge the cry but doesn't need to, he's survived far worse.


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THE TRIAL NEVER ENDS...thanks steve

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Canary. Her cry has been more powerful.

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He could dodge the cry


How, exactly?

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but doesn't need to, he's survived far worse.


She can keep screaming.

He can't sustain his invulnerability for long and it only works when he's using himself against a projectile ("human bullet", in his own words) against specific targets.


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Canary. Her constant scream for the win

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Iron Fist.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
How, exactly?



She can keep screaming.

He can't sustain his invulnerability for long and it only works when he's using himself against a projectile ("human bullet", in his own words) against specific targets.



He only needs to sustain it long enough to hit her.



You saw what Prince of Orphans did to him, didn't you? A Kamehameha chi attack? Sent him flying out of K'un L'un, back to Earth, skipping like a stone over mountains of ice and snow?


I can try and post it if you hadn't.


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When he's falling from stratosphere or whatever and surviving the fall, you mean?

Sustaining it is going to be a problem, as it's a wide aoe blast and Canary is a skilled martial artist herself --- then you have the standard starting distance, 0.5 km.

Of course, her scream may be all hype; I could totally see dctards lying about it all these years.


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Canary knows martial arts too. Won't be too simply just hit her

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He has to cover 0.5 km starting distance, while wading through her sonics.

So yeah, not easy at all.

Especially with those super-senses of his.


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When he's falling from stratosphere or whatever and surviving the fall, you mean?

Sustaining it is going to be a problem, as it's a wide aoe blast and Canary is a skilled martial artist herself --- then you have the standard starting distance, 0.5 km.

Of course, her scream may be all hype; I could totally see dctards lying about it all these years.



How's her range?


Danny's best is somewhere in the range of a city block. He can probably extend it if we allow "Living Weapon" feats, where the writer turns him into some kind of Chi Parasite tapping in to an entire skyscrapers worth of people, and somehow even old ghosts of K'un L'un through his robo dad.


But that series was so out there I'm not sure if it shouldn't be ignored.




Of course, he can also pick up rocks and random junk, chi charge them, and throw. Bet he can pitch a half mile easy.


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Canary shattered Adjudicators crystal ball
. Huge feat, considering how he's an abstract level being.

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Canary shattered Adjudicators crystal ball
. Huge feat, considering how he's an abstract level being.



Danny's outright killed an abstract level being. thumb up


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Danny's outright killed an abstract level being. thumb up


Who? Anybody of note?

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Who? Anybody of note?





Forget the name off hand, but it was a big ball of fire in the sky that reaps cities worth of souls in an instant.


Danny admittedly had to amp for this. But part of that amp was absorbing ALL past Iron Fists which were infused within a robot horror construct known as The One. Pretty sure that was as permenant as Orson Randalls upgrade.


Before that, Danny did a temp power up of absorbing chi from a skyscrapers worth of businessmen. Then he turned the building into a giant rock-em/sock-em robot.


No joke, he got a building to box with a giant ball of fire. No idea what the writer was smoking, but he's Canadian and was surely smoking.


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... surely Canary can't scream *constantly*?

She has to draw breath sometime....


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... surely Canary can't scream *constantly*?

She has to draw breath sometime....


Of course, but she can do it for longer than Danny's human bullet gimmick.


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Of course, but she can do it for longer than Danny's human bullet gimmick.



Half a mile.

If it was Cyclops, Danny might be in trouble.


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Less than that.

Miles ain't kilometers.

Start using the metric system like the civilized world does.

He still can't cover the distance fast enough and he can't sustain his durability for that long.

He would also need to adjust his senses.... and Superman, he is not.


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