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godspeed and zoom vs sb prime

no sf bfr.


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Prime Wins, Prime always wins.

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Prime will win

Considering Superman managed to tag Zoom multiple times and SBP was stated to be faster than any single flash, then I imagine prime would win

Without use of BFR/SF, they can't really beat him


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I guess that depends on which showings you choose to highlight. If, as was at one time the norm, we take his highs and lows and his most standard feats into consideration to find an ‘average’ prime, I’m not at all sure the two can’t put him down. Zoom is among the most haxx characters in comics and Godspeed wasn’t too far behind him. Superman was tagging him but that def felt like pis. A normal zoom should be much too fast even for kal. /shrug.


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The Teen Titans old hoeing was pure PIS. They were starting DCNU52 and abruptly ended that series. The last issue was hurried, easy to tell. The Shazam/BA fight was covered by Galan.
The other “low” showing was fighting an almost adult Conner Kent. He was probabaly operating near his black zero levels

Kryptonian physiology amped by his telekinesis powers.

Then you have his normal showings.

Beat up Monarch legit universal level.
Survived Universal explosion point blank range.
Defeated Sodam yat ion
Broke out of the speed force.
Legit speed shananigans

High end
Beat the crap out of myx
Beat the crap out of DK
Easily handled DK’s corrupted supermen.

His highest feat is also his most recent and can be considered the norm because this is where he is currently operating at.

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The Teen Titans old hoeing was pure PIS. They were starting DCNU52 and abruptly ended that series. The last issue was hurried, easy to tell. The Shazam/BA fight was covered by Galan.
The other “low” showing was fighting an almost adult Conner Kent. He was probabaly operating near his black zero levels

Kryptonian physiology amped by his telekinesis powers.

Then you have his normal showings.

Beat up Monarch legit universal level.
Survived Universal explosion point blank range.
Defeated Sodam yat ion
Broke out of the speed force.
Legit speed shananigans

High end
Beat the crap out of myx
Beat the crap out of DK
Easily handled DK’s corrupted supermen.

His highest feat is also his most recent and can be considered the norm because this is where he is currently operating at.
I agree 100%

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amped and unamped prime are being conflated in that list....


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amped and unamped prime are being conflated in that list....
and present grown up Prime, I don’t think any of that matters though Leo.

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It should


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It should
Why do you think that? We've already established that he has some lows, but... At present he has his biggest high. The present iteration is the one we are arguing, isn't it?

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Zoom's highs have him appearing as a blur to and speedblitzing the guys who imprisoned SBP.....


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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Why do you think that? We've already established that he has some lows, but... At present he has his biggest high. The present iteration is the one we are arguing, isn't it?


We cant just willy nilly reference feats without key information or proper context. That causes more trouble than not and leads to a perpetuation of misrepresentation.


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Yeah this was intended to be superBOY, no guardian amp. Not sure why prime is suddenly being granted access to all feats in all contexts but this is Standard prime.


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Zoom's highs have him appearing as a blur to and speedblitzing the guys who imprisoned SBP.....


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Yeah this was intended to be superBOY, no guardian amp. Not sure why prime is suddenly being granted access to all feats in all contexts but this is Standard prime.
is present Superboy Prime not Superboy Prime then? No amp he's just a boy on the cusp of manhood surely. If the present Superboy Prime feat against DK isn't included it seems a bit like a Carver thread shifty

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current prime has goku'd himself up


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current prime has goku'd himself up
thumb up He has indeed.

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is present Superboy Prime not Superboy Prime then? No amp he's just a boy on the cusp of manhood surely. If the present Superboy Prime feat against DK isn't included it seems a bit like a Carver thread shifty


Lol. Maybe but threads use different iterations of characters all the time. I guess if we use the current multiversal version shifty every thread would be spite so it just doesn’t seem like it makes much sense to use that version....


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Lol. Maybe but threads use different iterations of characters all the time. I guess if we use the current multiversal version shifty every thread would be spite so it just doesn’t seem like it makes much sense to use that version....
O.K. I still feel average, original Prime is too much but anything is possible.

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there's no "original" prime

if we talking pre death metal, speedsters would win


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