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Philosophía
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Morg vs Juggernaut

Classic Juggernaut

Two fights:

1. Herald Morg
2. WOL Morg

No Bfr. Who wins?


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Classic Juggs laughed off a god blast. Nothing morg can do will mean much. But morg with the waters would be really tough for Juggs to take out physically. Juggs would beat regular morg. A draw against wol morg maybe?


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Which one of these 2 have the best speed fts?


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Classic Jugs in both.
I don’t know much about morg but I don’t think any herald of galactus is going to physically overpower Classic jugs.

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WOL Morg was highly infused with mystical energy. Cain has lost to far less.

Herald Morg without WOL probably stalemates him. Again Classic Juggernaut has lost to far less than one of Galactus' most dangerous heralds


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really? who has classic juggs actually lost to?


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Morg in both. Juggernaut has been hurt by Nightcrawler using a flaming chandelier, Shatterstar's swords, two punches from Prof. Hulk floored him, etc...

That Godblast showing (from a weakened Thor btw) Juggernaut had is a one off, super high. Everything else has been a series of less than stellar showings.


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Interesting to see the wide gap between opinions.


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yeah, hard to believe they can be so drastically wrong. stick out tongue when his powers are actually written properly--as they often but not always are--he wins or draws this, unless bfr is available then i'm sure morg, especially with the water, could bfr him. a flaming chandelier.... lol


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a flaming chandelier.... lol

Juggernaut wasn't laughing when he was hit with it :
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laughing out loud

i've seen the scan many times and it never fails to crack me up.


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Cain has as many 2 dollar hoe feats like above as he does legitimately good ones.

He is completely writer dependent. If the writer thinks of him as an x-men/spiderman villain then he is going to be treated like garbage.


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He really does. His highs are great, but his average places him in the Low to Mid Herald tier. Going back to his highs, he has the durability to resist Mid to High Trans attacks, but from a purely historical standpoint, he rarely performs on those high levels. Morg on the other hand has a better track record, as I find it difficult to imagine Cain doing well against Thanos.


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@stoic
But that's the thing. He really doesn't have great highs. He has ONE good high, against Thor's Godblast, but even then there's context. Keep in mind Thor was in a weakened state that issue because Loki was attacking him spiritually.

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The reason why writers treat him like a X-Men/Spiderman villain is because he IS a X-Men/Spiderman villain.


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@stoic
But that's the thing. He really doesn't have great highs. He has ONE good high, against Thor's Godblast, but even then there's context. Keep in mind Thor was in a weakened state that issue because Loki was attacking him spiritually.

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The reason why writers treat him like a X-Men/Spiderman villain is because he IS a X-Men/Spiderman villain.


Not sure if I remember correctly but didn't Cain have a good showing against Galactus? He also has good feats during the 7th and 8th day arc. He has highs, but again he averages at around low to mid herald.


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Not sure if I remember correctly but didn't Cain have a good showing against Galactus? He also has good feats during the 7th and 8th day arc. He has highs, but again he averages at around low to mid herald.

He was amped during the 7th/8th day arc.


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flaming


zop?


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yeah, hard to believe they can be so drastically wrong. stick out tongue when his powers are actually written properly--as they often but not always are--he wins or draws this, unless bfr is available then i'm sure morg, especially with the water, could bfr him. a flaming chandelier.... lol
I sometimes forget to specify no BFR, but suffice to say I don't want it here.

I'm just curious to see how these characters are seen in relation to another -- and Jugs specifically, who seems to rely a lot on that old godblast feat, but then again I think he has other good ones too (and a few really bad ones).

Like...how does Morg's output compare to Hulk? To Thor? I peg Surfer and Morg as pretty close in power (surfer obviously having the edge), would Juggs walk through him, too? How would he deal with Thanos output? Is it bigger than a godblast?


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I sometimes forget to specify no BFR, but suffice to say I don't want it here.

I'm just curious to see how these characters are seen in relation to another -- and Jugs specifically, who seems to rely a lot on that old godblast feat, but then again I think he has other good ones too (and a few really bad ones).

Like...how does Morg's output compare to Hulk? To Thor? I peg Surfer and Morg as pretty close in power (surfer obviously having the edge), would Juggs walk through him, too? How would he deal with Thanos output? Is it bigger than a godblast?

Here is the Godblast in context :
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Thor was under spiritual attack from Loki and suffering from crippling weakness fits.


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The godblast was directly compared to the one used against celestials I believe so all the above shouldn't matter


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