Gender: Male Location: Planning to take over the WORLD!
Classic Juggs laughed off a god blast. Nothing morg can do will mean much. But morg with the waters would be really tough for Juggs to take out physically. Juggs would beat regular morg. A draw against wol morg maybe?
Morg in both. Juggernaut has been hurt by Nightcrawler using a flaming chandelier, Shatterstar's swords, two punches from Prof. Hulk floored him, etc...
That Godblast showing (from a weakened Thor btw) Juggernaut had is a one off, super high. Everything else has been a series of less than stellar showings.
__________________
..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
Gender: Male Location: Planning to take over the WORLD!
yeah, hard to believe they can be so drastically wrong. when his powers are actually written properly--as they often but not always are--he wins or draws this, unless bfr is available then i'm sure morg, especially with the water, could bfr him. a flaming chandelier.... lol
He really does. His highs are great, but his average places him in the Low to Mid Herald tier. Going back to his highs, he has the durability to resist Mid to High Trans attacks, but from a purely historical standpoint, he rarely performs on those high levels. Morg on the other hand has a better track record, as I find it difficult to imagine Cain doing well against Thanos.
@stoic
But that's the thing. He really doesn't have great highs. He has ONE good high, against Thor's Godblast, but even then there's context. Keep in mind Thor was in a weakened state that issue because Loki was attacking him spiritually.
@CosmicComet
The reason why writers treat him like a X-Men/Spiderman villain is because he IS a X-Men/Spiderman villain.
__________________
..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
Not sure if I remember correctly but didn't Cain have a good showing against Galactus? He also has good feats during the 7th and 8th day arc. He has highs, but again he averages at around low to mid herald.
I sometimes forget to specify no BFR, but suffice to say I don't want it here.
I'm just curious to see how these characters are seen in relation to another -- and Jugs specifically, who seems to rely a lot on that old godblast feat, but then again I think he has other good ones too (and a few really bad ones).
Like...how does Morg's output compare to Hulk? To Thor? I peg Surfer and Morg as pretty close in power (surfer obviously having the edge), would Juggs walk through him, too? How would he deal with Thanos output? Is it bigger than a godblast?
__________________
“Perhaps this is the ultimate freedom. The freedom to leave.”