1. Post crisis.
2. New 52.
3. Rebirth.
4. Amalgamation of both versions with all feats since the post crisis era.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
One's skin bleeds from bullets. And without Wonder Woman's bullshit magic excuse for piercing weakness.
Superman could literally kill Arthur by charging at him at relativistic speeds with an outstretched index finger. That's way faster than a bullet, with a similar surface area of impact, but with 220 lbs of weight behind it.
If Aquaman was the only hero on Earth and he needed to stop a meteor so large that it would wipe the earth's surface and boil the oceans, he would literally be helpless. He could do nothing but sit there and die with everything else on Earth.
On the other hand even DOS Era Supes would survive something like that.
The difference between them physically is like the difference between Thing and most versions of Hulk. Countless multiples realistically that usually won't be portrayed accurately in comics.becuz plot n shit.
Given Aquaman’s portrayals against characters like Starro, Despero and Amazo that’s a wild sentiment on your part and an obvious lack of knowledge on one of these characters.
Aquaman has a trident that shoots energy he could stop a meteor that way. There’s also his strength that allowed him to close a oceanic trench. As well as stop an attack that destroyed a continent. Superman has him beat in regards to physicals but a fight could easily be rectified.
Given Aquaman has a healing factor in water, suggested on par with Wonder Woman speed wise, and even before the reboot boasted he could keep up with her by swimming. Then there’s his trident which would of killed Rao if not for plot.
Anyone seriously saying aquaman would legit beat Supes is delusional at best. This thread is silly. There is such a difference between the two that this thread is pretty much straight up spite. Water or no water.
Literally none of what you said amounts to anything against the notion that I already called out of comics being inherently terrible at power scaling or outright ignoring it for plot contrivance.
Again you can be thousands or even billions of times less powerful than an opponent in comics and still draw blood in comics. Thing and Aquaman once again fall into that category. Batman does far more brilliantly even in impromptu non prep fights against power houses and no one claims he is herald level.
Power scaling with Wonder Woman is the lazy way of avoiding putting his actual physicals on paper since wonder woman is so variable. Wonder Woman's best strength and speed feats e.g. aiding to move the moon or being massively FTL in reflexes absolutely murder stomp Aquaman's best. But she is highly writer dependent and Aquaman's best compares to her middle. He is not written up to her, she is written down so they can meet in the middle.
Can Aquaman move a moon? No. Is he massively FTL? Never in his life.
None of what you mentioned is an argument above the life wiping meteor scenario. A meteor that can devaste all the continents and completely boil the oceans is so massively above the meteor that hit the Yucatan peninsula and wiped out the dinosaurs (and I'm not even convinced Arthur would survive even that as Mera had to shield him from a mini nuke).
You mention his strength but list closing an oceanic trench as an argument? Basically among his best. Thanks for confirming that he is millions of times too weak to catch and throw back that meteor.
Blast it with the trident? Proof that the trident can blast with a force far above baseline multi-continental? Even if he could, thanks for proving that he needs an instrument to do something a lower average Superman could do unaided.
Here is how I would list Aquaman's stats, highballed:
Strength/Attack Potency: Country level with the trident. Can maybe hit with a few billion tons of force barehanded.
Durability: A little above his physical output without the Trident.
Speed: mid to high hypersonic. Eg. Mach 200-500. Basically a lightning timer.
If I wrote an Aquaman comic with those kinds of feats I would be lambasted as a fanboy wanking the character, but even though that would be the most feat dense version of Aquaman ever? That still doesn't even come close to 1% of Superman's more mundane feats. Let alone even his middle-high.
Aquaman will never be the guy to casually bench 6.6 sextillion tons of weight for days straight while gradually starving.
He probably wouldn't even be able to bench a submarine for 5 days straight while fully hydrated.
If you ever had Arthur toss an honest to goodness mountain, it would be the most visually impressive feat he ever had. If Superman does that it would be a slow day, and people would point out him stopping a sentient mountain so large it was going to step on metropolis from decades ago when he was far weaker.
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