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God Spoke the Universe into Existance..

I was meditating on this and i found it just incredible to know that God spoke the universe into existence. But I went even deeper. I sort of went into how he actually may've done it. Like what tongue was he speaking in. Or what gestures did he make. He probably used a tongue that was just unimaginably astounding. Like this big hum of enormously loud sounds, heard simultaneously through every inch of space in space. Ridiculously louds galactic sounds that were beyond words and letters and math and space and time. Sounds that are just impossibly complicated and sophisticated to an incalculable degree, to understand with the human ear. And doing this while creating, galaxies, the universe. Just by words.

Wow.


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Words are very powerful. The Bible attests to it frequently and it proves so in life.

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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I was meditating on this and i found it just incredible to know that God spoke the universe into existence. But I went even deeper. I sort of went into how he actually may've done it. Like what tongue was he speaking in. Or what gestures did he make. He probably used a tongue that was just unimaginably astounding. Like this big hum of enormously loud sounds, heard simultaneously through every inch of space in space. Ridiculously louds galactic sounds that were beyond words and letters and math and space and time. Sounds that are just impossibly complicated and sophisticated to an incalculable degree, to understand with the human ear. And doing this while creating, galaxies, the universe. Just by words.

Wow.
If you believe in that sort of thing, anyway erm


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I perfer to think he did it by singing (too much Tolkien perhaps)


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Wait, didn't your God form creation out of clay? Hmm...yet a ntoher ignored biblical contradiction.


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Wait, didn't your God form creation out of clay? Hmm...yet a ntoher ignored biblical contradiction.


No he formed people from clay (just like Odin and most NativeAmerican creaters)


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I seem to remember saying that stick out tongue


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I seem to remember saying that stick out tongue


The universe was spoken (or sung if you like Tolkien) in to existance then he shaped humans from the clay of the world so there's no contradiction.


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Aren't humans part of that creation?


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Aren't humans part of that creation?


Nope actually they seem to have been an after thought literally everything else in existance was created first.


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Not according to Genesis 2


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I perfer to think he did it by singing (too much Tolkien perhaps)


If that's what you prefer. In fact you can look at it that way too. It was probably a galactic symphony that would've been way too grand too understand and trillions upon trillions of light years ahead of, or way beyond, the limits of human imagination not even tapped into yet.


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Not according to Genesis 2


RYL?

I'm just thinking about what I remeber from the first few paragraphs.

He does the planet, the seas, the animals and then people right?

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If that's what you prefer. In fact you can look at it that way too. It was probably a galactic symphony that would've been way too grand too understand and trillions upon trillions of light years ahead of, or way beyond, the limits of human imagination not even tapped into yet.


I wasn't partly joking about the Tolkien thing. Still the whole coir biulding the universe was awsome.


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Re: God Spoke the Universe into Existance..

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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I was meditating on this and i found it just incredible to know that God spoke the universe into existence. But I went even deeper. I sort of went into how he actually may've done it. Like what tongue was he speaking in. Or what gestures did he make. He probably used a tongue that was just unimaginably astounding. Like this big hum of enormously loud sounds, heard simultaneously through every inch of space in space. Ridiculously louds galactic sounds that were beyond words and letters and math and space and time. Sounds that are just impossibly complicated and sophisticated to an incalculable degree, to understand with the human ear. And doing this while creating, galaxies, the universe. Just by words.

Wow.


There would have to already be a universe in order to speak words into it. I believe there is no beginning.


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RYL?

I'm just thinking about what I remeber from the first few paragraphs.

He does the planet, the seas, the animals and then people right?


Genesis 1 and 2 seem to have conflicting views on this issue.


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There would have to already be a universe in order to speak words into it. I believe there is no beginning.


I think it's more sensible to believe that before the universe there was nothingness. Meaning nothing there. Not meaning an empty space. There was just nothing there, no space, no time, it was all taken up by God, perhaps. But note that there's a difference in between nothingness and emptiness. There wasn't anything empty to fill in. There was just ...nothing.

Or God was in heaven relaxing and came up with the idea to make this something meaning the elements, space, time, math, us, and create unexplainable things in it and with it.


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I think it's more sensible to believe that before the universe there was nothingness. Meaning nothing there. Not meaning an empty space. There was just nothing there, no space, no time, it was all taken up by God, perhaps. But note that there's a difference in between nothingness and emptiness. There wasn't anything empty to fill in. There was just ...nothing.

Or God was in heaven relaxing and came up with the idea to make this something meaning the elements, space, time, math, us, and create unexplainable things in it and with it.


Nothingness dose not exist, and there is nothing outside of the universe. Nothingness is full, and all within nothingness is the same; nothingness. You cannot have sound, and with no sound, there is no word.


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Genesis 1 and 2 seem to have conflicting views on this issue.
No they do not. In fact the beginning of Genesis 2 clarifies Genesis 1 as being the order when it says in verse 1 and 2:
"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the sixth day (ie. the day man was created) God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made."

Also notice that according to Genesis 2:5-6 the seas (including the sea creatures) precede man and that plants also precede man. Ultimately Genesis 2 never indicates that it is chronolgical sequence whereas Genesis 1 does.

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I wasn't partly joking about the Tolkien thing.


Yikes major typo! I WAS partly joking about the Tolkien thing.


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