Scientific theory and scientific method: Are they applicable to God?

Who invented scientific theory? Is scientific theory an absolute? But atheists claim that there are no absolutes. The scientific method is applicable in everyday life so it can be used for anything right? Can a Christian use the scientific method to substantiate the existence of the transcendent God? Why or why not? I believe so. I believe that they are applicable to God. They may not provide a photo of God, but they corroborate His existence nontheless.

Observation: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated.

Question: Why are they so complicated? How do they exist? Why do they exist?

Hypothesis: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them.

Prediction: If the hypothesis is correct, THEN if those things are analyzed they should reveal, show, or evince evidence of design.

Experiment or Observation: Analyze the universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc.

Conclusion: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them hypothesis is supported.

...But where is the testing.experimentation stage? You can't repeat observation...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
...But where is the testing.experimentation stage? You can't repeat observation...

http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/Mansproof.html

I personally would ask people to take a more personal route to finding God. I dont think he needs to be proven via scientific method, nor should he be.. All the proof a person needs should come from themselves, if they can't find God, then there is a reason for that.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Experiment or Observation: Analyze the universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. [/B]

Originally posted by King Kandy
This is the part that makes things fall apart, because it's just a matter of viewpoint.

I agree.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I personally would ask people to take a more personal route to finding God. I dont think he needs to be proven via scientific method, nor should he be.. All the proof a person needs should come from themselves, if they can't find God, then there is a reason for that.

The reason I asked the question is because atheists have a problem with intelligent design being taught along side evolution in classrooms because they claim that it is based only on belief and that it is an untestable.

http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2005/08/02/43000_scientists_bush_puts_sch.php

^ ID is a code word for Christianity. People would not have a problem with ID, if it wasn't for the fact that fundamentalist Christians cannot be trusted.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ ID is a code word for Christianity. People would not have a problem with ID, if it wasn't for the fact that fundamentalist Christians cannot be trusted.

Tell that to the President of your United States.

http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2005/08/02/43000_scientists_bush_puts_sch.php

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Tell that to the President of your United States.

What does that have to do with anything?

ID will not allow, over time, evolution to be taught in schools, if it allowed to be part of the curriculum.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ ID is a code word for Christianity. People would not have a problem with ID, if it wasn't for the fact that fundamentalist Christians cannot be trusted.

When Big Bang was first produced the Scientific World mocked it as absolute shit.

Now its the accepted theory...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Tell that to the President of your United States.

http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2005/08/02/43000_scientists_bush_puts_sch.php

What sort of argument was that supposed to be?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Who invented scientific theory? Is scientific theory an absolute? But atheists claim that there are no absolutes. The scientific method is applicable in everyday life so it can be used for anything right? Can a Christian use the scientific method to substantiate the existence of the transcendent God? Why or why not? I believe so. I believe that they are applicable to God. They may not provide a photo of God, but they corroborate His existence nontheless.

[B]Observation: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated.

Question: Why are they so complicated? How do they exist? Why do they exist?

Hypothesis: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them.

Prediction: If the hypothesis is correct, THEN if those things are analyzed they should reveal, show, or evince evidence of design.

Experiment or Observation: Analyze the universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc.

Conclusion: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them hypothesis is supported. [/B]

i somewhat agree with him. Somebody or something must have created a physical law and it lead to creation or evolution of living things. whethere you call it God or creator or a thing that poops out universe.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What does that have to do with anything?

ID will not allow, over time, evolution to be taught in schools, if it allowed to be part of the curriculum.

Why not? Is it more plausible than your theory of evolution?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
When Big Bang was first produced the Scientific World mocked it as absolute shit.

Now its the accepted theory...

That is true, but ID is not a scientific theory; it is a wolf in sheep's skin.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why not? Is it more plausible than your theory of evolution?

Because fundamentalist Christians cannot be trusted.

Wolf in Sheeps Skin...Georges Lemaître would probablly have faced criticism like that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is true, but ID is not a scientific theory; it is a wolf in sheep's skin.

The scientific method can be appropriately applied to intelligent design postulation; therefore, it is scientific theory.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Who invented scientific theory? Is scientific theory an absolute? But atheists claim that there are no absolutes. The scientific method is applicable in everyday life so it can be used for anything right? Can a Christian use the scientific method to substantiate the existence of the transcendent God? Why or why not? I believe so. I believe that they are applicable to God. They may not provide a photo of God, but they corroborate His existence nontheless.

[B]Observation: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated.

Question: Why are they so complicated? How do they exist? Why do they exist?

Hypothesis: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them.

Prediction: If the hypothesis is correct, THEN if those things are analyzed they should reveal, show, or evince evidence of design.

Experiment or Observation: Analyze the universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc.

Conclusion: The universe, planets, stars, earth, fundamental forces, cells, life, etc. are very complicated because they were designed by Someone Who possesses sufficient wisdom, knowledge, intelligence, and power to create them hypothesis is supported. [/B]

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because fundamentalist Christians cannot be trusted.

I think your greatest fear is that evolution when compared next to intelligent design would be exposed and seen for what it truly is not: science.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The scientific method can be appropriately applied to intelligent design postulation; therefore, it [b]is scientific theory. [/B]

That does not matter. Fundamentalist Christians will throw out ID once they have finally gotten rid of evolution and science. Without science, America will become an ignorant and war like nation. For example; back to your statement about the President of your United States.