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AsbestosFlaygon
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Anneliese Michel

I don't know if you guys have heard of her.

She was Roman Catholic German who was said to have been possessed by demons.

She was an inspiration to the movie, The Exorcism of Emiy Rose.

Here is a sample of the audio tape recording of her exorcism:

So what do you guys think?

Was she just brainwashed, or was she really possessed by Demons?

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lol

you mean the forced confinement, starvation and torture, to death, of Anneliese Michel by her family and priest?

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Brainwashed?

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Re: Anneliese Michel

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Originally posted by occultdestroyer
I don't know if you guys have heard of her.

She was Roman Catholic German who was said to have been possessed by demons.

She was an inspiration to the movie, The Exorcism of Emiy Rose.

Here is a sample of the audio tape recording of her exorcism:

So what do you guys think?

Was she just brainwashed, or was she really possessed by Demons?

Demons are not real, therefore, it might be brainwashing, but most likely it is some type of mental disorder.

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She wasn't 'brainwashed' she was mentally ill.

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Brainwashed?

Brainwashed by religion.. making her devoid of reality and believing that demons did possess her.

IMO, if there was anyone to blame, it would be herself.

But if she was truly possessed by these so-called 'demons', then maybe paranormal things like this do really happen.

This wasn't the first case of demon possession. And exorcisms are not exclusive to the Christian faith; there are incidents of Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, and Pagan demon possession as well.

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Brainwashed by religion.. making her devoid of reality and believing that demons did possess her.

IMO, if there was anyone to blame, it would be herself.

You don't believe there are actual people with serious psychotic disorders?

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You don't believe there are actual people with serious psychotic disorders?

The thing is, there were no medical records prior to the exorcism that could prove this claim.

And psychotic disorders likely show up at a person's early years.

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The phrase is psychotic break. An unlikely but demonstrable problem seems much more likely than this being "her fault".

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The thing is, there were no medical records prior to the exorcism that could prove this claim.

And psychotic disorders likely show up at a person's early years.

People can slit through the cracks. They can be mentally ill, but able to cope with the illness for many years before a serious onset.

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People can slit through the cracks. They can be mentally ill, but able to cope with the illness for many years before a serious onset.

Yeah, or demons. 50/50 chance.

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Yeah, or demons. 50/50 chance.

What about leprechauns?

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The thing is, there were no medical records prior to the exorcism that could prove this claim.

And psychotic disorders likely show up at a person's early years.

*faceplam* Another fundie-skeptic spoiling it for us all...

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The thing is, there were no medical records prior to the exorcism that could prove this claim.

And psychotic disorders likely show up at a person's early years.

incorrect, psychiatric disorders, especially the type that would cause those type of disturbances, are most common in the early 20s

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Originally posted by occultdestroyer

I don't know if you guys have heard of her.

She was Roman Catholic German who was said to have been possessed by demons.

She was an inspiration to the movie, The Exorcism of Emiy Rose.

Here is a sample of the audio tape recording of her exorcism:

So what do you guys think?

Was she just brainwashed, or was she really possessed by Demons?

I own the book, "The Exorcism of Anneliese Michel," written by Felicitas D. Goodman, and I read the entirety of it. In my opinion, the book was inconclusive, but Miss Michel was far from "brainwashed." It will be plan to the reader that she suffered tremendously, physically and mentally, if not spiritually. It is an interesting account, but I can not put my thumb on it. I will say this, however: I do believe in demonic possession (as well as the influence of the Holy Spirit to convicted the sinner). In life, spiritual aspects exists as well -- a tug-of-war match (between holy and evil) so to speak. Life "itself" transcends the physical. Heck, that is the very reason people enjoy such stories! They can participate and/or confide in the story. It's real. The video itself is most likely a fraud and should not be taken at face value. Conduct research on the topic. Divorce yourself from emotion.

Check this out:

What do you think?

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Shakyamunison
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Demons doe exist, that is what I think.

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i think so too. that's what Tekken taught me Happy Dance

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What do you think?

people performing exorcisms should face criminal charges

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lol, indeed, because known psychopaths are the least likely to fake religion in order to reap the benefits they bring...

or wait, was it the exact opposite of that...

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