IMO this is a better matchup than Kyo vs Hayabusa because of Iori's Raw Power.
Iori's style is unorthodox...and those nails of his can clearly cause a lot of pain. Not to mention the whole Orochi riot thing.
Hmm...Problem is I don't know a lot about Iori. So if anyone wants to indulge me feel free to do so.
Main questions are:
1) How's Iori's combat speed? Feats would be nice.
2) Does he have a way to stop Hayabusa from teleporting?
3) Has he ever fought someone like Hayabusa? I don't mean as strong or as powerful, someone as well rounded as Hayabusa.
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1) Pretty quick, but I don't think it's comparable for the most part with hayabusa's.
2) He could paralyze him with flames or knock him out before he uses it.
Hayabusa's Teleportation has a noticeble start up time. He might be able to catch Iori a few times with the Teleport, but he can't press an advantage with it. It's not as quick as kasumi's for it to be used that way.
3) Probably the four divine Kings, but I'm not to sure.
About the teleportation...he has different versions. In gameplay Hayabusa has the noticible start up time, but in NG we see him teleport without performing any of the handsigns etc.
In any case I don't think the teleportation will guarantee Hayabusa the win.
As far as I'm concerned Iori is a powerhouse and can probably go at it for a long time.
Sad thing is I predict Sado will run in and start over rating Iori to Darkstalker levels while making Hayabusa look like Dan Hibiki.
On a second note I wonder what brainchild's thoughts on this would be.
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All those teleports had a start up.
Yeah, but the opponent is off gaurd during Inzuna drop, plus it's part of a multiple move assualt. I'm thinking about teleportation on par with Night Crawler.
About the Nightcrawler style teleportation I gotta give that to you. His teleportation is no where near Nightcrawler's.
Edit: Although I think he can instantly teleport when you counter your way out of getting hit by a car in DOA4. Unfortunately I don't have the copy of DOA4 with me at the moment, and I doubt I'll find that particular instance on youtube.
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It's good to see that Teleporters get respect on this forum, because they get slept on hard everywhere else. I hate the fact that certain Speed-sters can blitz teleporters. Also, I hate speedsters that operate FTL on all levels I.E. FTL reaction, FTL traveling speed, FTL fighting speed, and FTL blitzing.
You guys already brought up why. Mainly teleporting. Teleporting gives the DOA ninja an edge that most top tiers from other fighting games don't have. It's a large part of why I generally give Ayane, Kasumi, and Hayabusa at least a 6/10 over their peers from other games.
Iori has pretty good speed. feats? err...he's pretty good at all sports
he can hold him and choke the crap out of him like he did with Geonitz and Orochi. teleportation isn't really something new for Iori and as this guy pointed out, Ryu's teleportation takes long time...while Geonitz and Orochi could do it almost instantly. so i don't think teleportation matters.
he's fought Terry, K', Kyo, Ryo, Geonitz, Igniz, Billy and Eiji together, Vice and Mature together, and the whole cast of KoF97 while weakened.
that enough?
....i'm so gonna spam your PM section with Jin pictures!
Always a pleasure to debate with you. *Acts all polite to avoid getting Jin pics*
I knew you would bring the roster owning...Who has not owned a KOF roster these days? Exactly. Besides...wasn't that Iori under the influence of the Orochi blood? If that is the case we are not discussing that version of Iori. And then...Iori gets cheapshotted by Ash after taking on Kyo & Shingo. Something must be wrong...he owns an entire roster...and then gets owned after fighting Kyo &...Shingo.
This is just my humble opinion, and I am in no way an Iori master, but still:
Hayabusa has him beat in combat speed.
Strength & Power goes to Iori hands down.
Teleportation will still be a mess for Iori. How will he grab someone that is faster than him in combat?
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actually only Omega Rugal, Orochi Iori and Igniz have taken on the entire cast of KoF. Rugal was the only one who pwned it...and that was simply because Iori wasn't there.
Orochi Iori went down and so did Igniz.
Orochi Iori is also the weaker version of Iori. i know it sounds weird but that's how it is.
Ash is supposed to be a VERY powerful character. to the point that he is toying around with Kyo. he was even seen wrecking up South Town without much effort in KoFAd. this is hard to believe, and i for one HATE to admit it, but Ash may very well be the strongest of the flame users.
oh and a very crucial point is always overlooked:
Ash can teleport as well as absorb powers and in KoFXI he had the ability to seal power (the mirror stolen from Kagura). so brainless, tired and weaker version of Iori losing to a powerful, focused Ash with teleporation ablitiy and the power to SEAL someone's power...........its not too hard to believe that Iori went down.
i agree. i'm just pointing out that he has dealt with teleporters before....and dealt with them soundly. also i brought up instantaneous teleportation (GEonitz, Orochi, etc).
I see your points, but even if Orochi Iori is a "weaker" version of him that feat still qualifies as Orochi Iori's and not regular Iori. IMO he managed to pull that off because he was out of control, and nothing more.
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