i wouldn't
chaos is unbelievably fast...he makes cloud look like hes standing still while he zips around at 100 miles a second
respect thread - http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f100/t464169.html
watch the chaos video
Well remember, Cloud singlehandedly took out Loz and Yazoo at the same time and Loz is just as fast as Chaos/Weiss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQkT0Lx5cSE
(Watch from 3:35 to see how fast Loz is)
He handles both of them, blocking Yazoo's gun shots while fighting Loz, and he destroys both their weapons, Cloud even stood toe to toe with Sephiroth(who is the strongest character in the FF7 world) for awhile and took him out with Omnislash.
It would be a close fight but Cloud would end up beating Chaos
Last edited by Terryc250 on Sep 22nd, 2007 at 10:29 AM
loz may be fast, but chaos is a lot faster...he was moving, flying, shooting and going toe to toe with the other guy in the space of about 1 millisecond..
also, your forgetting that chaos made the whole planet quake..that would definitely take out cloud..
Watch the vid and u see Loz is like flying around as well, anyway if chaos is faster, he isnt much faster, and Cloud can definately take on ppl that r much faster then him.
The destruction of Omega made that explosion, its clearly the aura of Omega.
In FFVII Cloud was much stronger then Chaos, in FFVII AC, Vince was a little girl compared to Cloud.
Now that Vince has his own game with cool cutscenes ppl think hes godlike, cuz he took out Omega/Weiss and Weiss is some uber-fast cool character, Sephiroth is way tougher then them, and Cloud beat Sephiroth, thats something Chaos could never do.
you cant deny chaos' speed...like i said, in the time it would take for cloud to blink, chaos could shoot him from 8 different ways...
besides, this is chaos, not Vincent...cloud could beat Vincent, but not without effort...remember that Vincent saved cloud and made Kadaj stop, when just seconds ago, Kadaj could have killed cloud effortlessly..
id say the fairer match would be between cloud and Vincent, not chaos..
also, it wasn't just omegas aura in that vid...chaos literally smacked him and made the whole planet shake...the whole bloody planet..
first of all, every time Cloud fights Seph, PIS rears its ugly head and Seph toys with Cloud do that the good guy wins, Second, Chaos is a bit faster than Loz, Chaos beats Cloud.
Wow...holy shit this is more spite than most threads on this forum, and as much as I like Cloud, there's no way in fvcking hell he's going to be able to defeat Chaos without complete and absolute PIS the like of which spared his life against Sephiroth.
As Madmel said, watch the Chaos videos in Vincent's respect thread. Chaos can move faster than the eye can see and takes swords through him without feeling pain (Chaos vs. Weiss video). Cloud isn't in Chaos and Weiss' league, at all. About Loz, Kadaj and Yazoo, this isn't a fight on a mortocycle and Cloud was on the defensive for the majority of the time. In fact it was Loz's speed that allowed him to kick him around while airborne. So wtf? And no, Loz is not as fast as Chaos. Loz can still be seen despite how fast he is. Chaos cannot. Chaos took down Omega Weapon while quaking the Earth in the process (Second video in the respect thread). Those are just two feats that show just how much of a curbstomp this is.
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A Cloud vs Vincent thread would be obvious spite, Vincent couldnt even make Bahamut even twitch, and Cloud was knocking around Bahamut.
An enemy dying which causes a big explosion isnt much of a feat, it doesn't mean Chaos can now go around nuking everyone.
that was crybaby cloud with geostigma, he was gettin his ass kicked by everyone at the time, after he lost his geostigma and got over aeris a bit, he pwned everyone
Chaos isnt much faster then Loz, you can still see Chaos as well, except for those small speed jumps he does same with Weiss, and same with Loz
Lets see how well he takes being split in half
Last edited by Terryc250 on Sep 22nd, 2007 at 05:22 PM
Yeah and he's just going to stand there and let him do it. How's Cloud going to spot him when he can move fast enough to not even be visible in battle? Weiss' speed can match Chaos' and Chaos was still able to shoot him through the chest, let alone the fact that Chaos can block Cloud's swords with his gun according to the following video. Cloud is ultimately screwed in this fight.
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And when applying this much force, a sword swipe would be nothing.
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Last edited by Wandering Flame on Sep 22nd, 2007 at 06:44 PM
See the thing is, Cloud was almost down for the count when he was stabbed through by Sephiroth's sword and when he was shot by Yazoo near the end of the movie. Even though he was still able to fight after those two instances, he was screwed for the most part. Such attacks would hardly faze Chaos and Weiss.
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^He got stabbed, took it out, continued fighting like nothing happened, he was not "almost down for the count"
Watch after he gets shot and you can see Yazoo/Loz had materia loaded in his arm when he shot, otherwise Cloud would have tooken the shot no problem like when he took the shot point blank in the face at the beginning of the movie, whats funny is that right after he gets shot, he takes an explosion big enough to bring down a building right in the face and still lives.
I've seen the Weiss/Chaos video, it looks just like Loz but with more cool slow motion effects, cool sound effects and some evil laughter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQkT0Lx5cSE
(watch at 3:35)
And yes if Vincent does that move that took out Omega on Cloud, Chaos will win the fight
however, if Cloud lands an Omnislash on Chaos, Cloud will win.
About that explosion, he looked pretty knocked out up until he woke up in the church while being surrounded by the children, and I believe it was Aerith that brought him back to life or something of that nature.
Cloud's chances are slim. That's all I have to say at the moment. An Omnislash could possibly take down Chaos, but Cloud would need the same plot-induced stupidity against Sephiroth to win this. If Chaos really tried to kill Cloud...he would kill Cloud. That's not in question.
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Would just like to add that Cloud was not out for the count when Sephiroth stabbed his shoulder. He just showed pain, and was obviously exhausted. Had he not been able to keep fighting he would not have found the strength to not only remove Sephiroth's masamune from his shoulder, but grab the 1st Tsurugi and then slash at Sephiroth in 1 fluid move. The rest is the good ole pis as we know.
And about Loz, Yazoo & Kadaj beating on Cloud...not only was he outnumbered during the sleeping forest fight; he had just fallen off his bike, slided on the ground for a good while and he only showed signs of weakness when the Geostigma kicked in. That is the exact moment Kadaj capitalizes to take Cloud down. Same thing happened when Yazoo & Loz were fighitng Cloud at the beginning of the movie. By the way I really doubt Yazoo shot Cloud in the face during their first match. he was clearly just taunting his big brother.