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Kratos v.s. Cenarius

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They battle in a thick and dense forest that hovers over Mount Olympus.

Who wins?


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What is up with you and Cenarius and dense forests?


Kratos wins.


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So he won't be at a disadvantage.


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Kratos literally can throw him out of orbit if he wanted.


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Too bad get gets crushed before he can move

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Kratos literally can throw him out of orbit if he wanted.


Only if Kratos was being generous.


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Originally posted by Remindme
Too bad get gets crushed before he can move


...Oh you were serious? Sorry dude, the Collossus of Rhodes(who is about, say, 200-300 feet tall) tried that, and got thrown a mile away.


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...Oh you were serious? Sorry dude, the Collossus of Rhodes(who is about, say, 200-300 feet tall) tried that, and got thrown a mile away.


who said Cenarius has to go near him? I know i didn't

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who said Cenarius has to go near him? I know i didn't
How will he kill the man that has literally fought his way out of hell twice? How does he kill him?


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Summons tree's from the earth to crush him, literally.As the branches wrap around him the throns will also cut into him, nice and painful death

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Originally posted by Remindme
Summons tree's from the earth to crush him, literally.As the branches wrap around him the throns will also cut into him, nice and painful death
Trees? Lol, is that it? Kratos will rip right thru them. They will cut into him? This is the guy that fights giant monsters, like Cyclope, Krakens, and Hydras. He broke out of the Kraken's grip dude. He has a large arsenal of weapons and magic at his disposal.


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the importance of the battle lies in "what kratos" this actually is.....when you just put Kratos you could be referring to the massive one at the beginning of GOW 2, or the one at the end of GOW 2 (the one at the end is arguably more powerful, he has tonnes of abilities then)...OR you could be referring to the fairly week version at the beginning of GOW 1 (okie he isnt that week but ya kno, nothing on his other versions)

you have to take into account as its been debated before, Cenarius' spells are powerful enough to make Archimonde want to evade them as said in the sunwell trilogy according to Utriga, he seems an unbiased and truthful debator and i dont see anyone who would argue that afaik?

if Archimonde wants to evade Cenarius' spells then they must be quite destructive and so his major blasts and most powerful magic attacks would most certainly harm Kratos, perhaps even damage large God kratos at full power, Cenarius is no slouch and combine that with Cenarius' speed Kratos would unlikely be able to use his most powerful asset, his strength on him, he would have to result in using ranged attacks, which he is few on and they are fairly week imo, like Typhons bane..magic arrows<<<Cenarius when he is going to use his full power

also forget roots and trees, V2D is right, if anything tries to go melee with Kratos he is going to be fairly easily rip out of it and destroy treant summons, Cenarius is going to have to use a variety of hit and run tactics and spells to save himself and to damage Kratos over and over until he eventually takes him depending on the version.

If its GOW 2 ending version or the giant verison its going to be much harder, but Kratos seems a little slower as a large character and so this would play to Cenarius advantage, i think if you give GOW 2 kratos blade of olympus he could probably take Cenarius fairly easily, the beams are ranged it launches, fast and unlike most of kratos other ranged weapons is actually very powerful.


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If it's that huge-ass Kratos that stand over 200 meters tall and who throw titans into orbit, then I consider Cenarius doomed.. However, if it's any other Kratos, I say that Cenarius is victorious.. his powers of nature and magic are vast, he has huge physical speed and strength and he's a horribly smart combatant.. And he's fighting in a dense forest..


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the large Kratos has never thrown titans into orbit big grin

the large Kratos is dependant on his speed, his durability i dont think is any diffrent from the small god Kratos since the only truth behind GOW god durability is that their bones cannot break and they cannot burn, i dont think Cenarius victory is any shorter with those limitations against him

if Large kratos can move as fast in comparison to the smaller one then he would trample Cenarius its true


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the large Kratos has never thrown titans into orbit big grin

the large Kratos is dependant on his speed, his durability i dont think is any diffrent from the small god Kratos since the only truth behind GOW god durability is that their bones cannot break and they cannot burn, i dont think Cenarius victory is any shorter with those limitations against him

if Large kratos can move as fast in comparison to the smaller one then he would trample Cenarius its true


Well, from words heard around KMC, that's exactly what Kratos is capable of.. I dont know, as I haven't played GOW..


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Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Well, from words heard around KMC, that's exactly what Kratos is capable of.. I dont know, as I haven't played GOW..


hehe, thats hype, the highest strength feet of Kratos hmm....

ive played through all the games several times, he could never throw a titan, let alone perhaps anything into Orbit, well okie he could throw small things if he was God kratos size, but a Titan no way.

the hype usually comes from "because he could hold back Atlas' fingers he could throw things into orbit" its no argument imo, Atlas first is never stated to hold anything up but the mantle of the planet in GOW, people seem to speculate that he holds up space itself (rubbish imo, nothing states this AFAIK, not in GOW) and we must also take into consideration he wasnt neccerily putting full strength at all into his squishing of Kratos, since he was just putting him under strain since he was talking to the guy, if he wanted to just squish him he wouldnt be having a chat


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hehe, thats hype, the highest strength feet of Kratos hmm....

ive played through all the games several times, he could never throw a titan, let alone perhaps anything into Orbit, well okie he could throw small things if he was God kratos size, but a Titan no way.

the hype usually comes from "because he could hold back Atlas' fingers he could throw things into orbit" its no argument imo, Atlas first is never stated to hold anything up but the mantle of the planet in GOW, people seem to speculate that he holds up space itself (rubbish imo, nothing states this AFAIK, not in GOW) and we must also take into consideration he wasnt neccerily putting full strength at all into his squishing of Kratos, since he was just putting him under strain since he was talking to the guy, if he wanted to just squish him he wouldnt be having a chat


In mythology, Atlas is said to hold the world over his shoulders.. How much he actually carry is uncertain, since I dont know how much science that's mixed with that fact.. but let's look at his actual strenght.. You said that Kratos could hold a finger from Atlas? If Atlas actually DO hold the weight of the whole world, then Kratos wouldnt be capable of doing that.. Kratos would be pushed in under the earth from the mere force of the opposition, no matter how strong he was.. So, if Atlas gave it all, I am assuming that there is a deep hole where Kratos stood strong against his finger..

Is it?


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Originally posted by Darth Extecute
In mythology, Atlas is said to hold the world over his shoulders.. How much he actually carry is uncertain, since I dont know how much science that's mixed with that fact.. but let's look at his actual strenght.. You said that Kratos could hold a finger from Atlas? If Atlas actually DO hold the weight of the whole world, then Kratos wouldnt be capable of doing that.. Kratos would be pushed in under the earth from the mere force of the opposition, no matter how strong he was.. So, if Atlas gave it all, I am assuming that there is a deep hole where Kratos stood strong against his finger..

Is it?


what happened is that Atlas had Kratos between his fingers, he was like between his forefinger and his thumb and being pushed between them, but Atlas wasnt even trying it seems to me, and Kratos was struggling against it but eventually pushed them apart, people seem to imediatley think he has Atlas class strength or anything comparable to throwing about things into orbit.

its true Atlas in mythology it says he holds the heavens on his shoulders, but this Atlas is slightly diffrent, as are all the GOW gods comapring them to mythology.


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what happened is that Atlas had Kratos between his fingers, he was like between his forefinger and his thumb and being pushed between them, but Atlas wasnt even trying it seems to me, and Kratos was struggling against it but eventually pushed them apart, people seem to imediatley think he has Atlas class strength or anything comparable to throwing about things into orbit.

its true Atlas in mythology it says he holds the heavens on his shoulders, but this Atlas is slightly diffrent, as are all the GOW gods comapring them to mythology.


s he isn't as strong as hercules


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Atlas was trying to squash Kratos. Kratos held him back. Atlas in Mythology at least holds the sky, and in many sources even space. He is strong enough to do that in GOW2 with a free hand while trying to crush him. Kratos rammed the massive head of the Hydra thru a long pike on a ship, overpowers 20-30 foot Cyclope with ease, ripped out of the Kraken's grip, muscled the Blade of Olympus from ZEUS, and tossed a 200-300 foot Collossus a mile away. He is MUCH stronger than Cenarius. If this is Kratos at the end of GOW2...it is a stomp, nothing less. He has all his godly powers and MORE in a small package.


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