Kazuya survived being thrown off a mountain cliff by his father, Heihachi Mishima, as a child and survived to climb back up to get revenge only later to throw his father out off a mountain cliff himself.
Then Kazuya was thrown into an active volcano by his father years later in retaliation. And Kazyua still came back after his father. And he's the only character with a demonic or "devil" gene. He recieved it when he sold his soul to the devil as a kid so that he can live to get revenge on his father. The huge scar on his chest was the mark made as a reminder of the contract, from what i understand..
I don't know what Akuma has went through tha'st harder that what Kazuya Mishima went through. And Kazuya might be more sinister, too. He's about planetary conquest.
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And you won't here. You will witness how highly Akuma and/or Akuma's feats are overrated, but that's the extent your knowledge will go. Unfortunately for most, as soon as they hear Akuma "sunk" or punched an island to smithereens, or, get ready to laugh, "shifted tectonic plates", they automatically squirt on their monitors thinking Akuma can, out of the blue, sink a landmass as big as Hawaii by flexing his muscles, not caring, but most likely ignorant of the following:
1. Size of island is speculated, claimed to be confirmed by a picture with an island in it, by fans.
2. Spreading ki was involved. However you will read supporters arguing, "nope, it's his physical strength".
3. Time it took to pull off is unknown and speculated, fans will argue it took seconds, less than a minute, or a few minutes.
Somewhere at one point, you will most likely hear that it is bigger in quantity than the entire Mishima Zaibatsu complex, because it is an island (a 100x100 feet rock surrounded by water qualifies as an island) whereas the latter isn't.
You will probably also read Akuma's island shattering punches will destroy Kazuya who has no such durability to make said punches withstandable, but the fact Devil's power vanished what is shown in video 1 below is nothing Akuma has to fear.
Also that Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu will give him the win instantly (as it gives him the win against pretty much anyone, especially when speaking of fighting game characters), but, the fact it doesn't work on Street Fighters like Gen or anyone who clears/purifies his or her mind so to speak, or the fact Kazuya has telekinesis, coupled with Devil-powered beams are negligible by default. It's Akuma he's fighting.
What you mentioned will not seem like anything to some, though what you mentioned certainly gives Kazuya the durability advantage. Getting thrown in a volcano and simply becoming lifeless as a result, has nothing to with durability. If you get the statement saying because it took his life that it doesn't count as a durability feat, don't be surprised.
At his highest state which is in Tekken 2, is the same "full" level achieved in Kazuya's ending in Tekken 4, and that is simply through absorbing the other half of Devil residing in Jin. This same level of power demonstrated in Kazuya's T4 ending (which is telling what would happen if Devil was complete) vanished the Mishima Zaibatsu complex and the area surround it without a trace. Let me explain what I mean by telling. These words are verbatim from the ending. Not everything that counts as gaugable feats have to be seen (I know some love to use text and/or things people said or typed elsewhere, even people who have no authority to make things official on their own behalves).
If "vanished without a trace" does not suffice for a person, to think the notion it doesn't even imply the area in question wasn't reduced to 1 inch square bits isn't sufficient for the person is simply beyond amazing. Anyway, first video will show the whole or part of the Mishima Zaibatsu, the second is Kazuya's ending, which shows some telekinetic abilities as well. I will also throw in something, (a third video) showing what not using the devil gene can do (specifically what both Jin and Kazuya in their base forms did, so Kazuya contributed half).
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Just wanted to say the Zaibatsu's size or how long it took it to be erased is not being argued. It is just as mysterious as Akuma's case, I'm sorry to say.
Third video is not important and is something I threw in. It's not comparable to Kazuya's other level of power or what Akuma has done.
Skip to 2:00 in the second video. First two minutes is not important.
regular akuma can only be beaten by Ryu because ryu has no feats comparable to Akuma's therefor ryu beating him makes sense. but not people who have better feats than Ryu. Ryu putting up a fight and defeating Akuma in SFA2 without having any feats to back it up is not PIS but if Jin beats Jinpachi, then its PIS. in fact, anyone who has better feats than Ryu automatically has a jobber aura because only ryu can beat everyone without needing feat. that is a feat, in and of itself.
its so pathetic how people just don't get this simple logic.
You don't see Kazuya training in the deep ocean waters where the pressures of it would crush a regular human body to snot. You don't see Kazuya sinking an island with his fist, or splitting a mountain into 5 sections with his fist either.
Akuma himself is insanely powerful, and most noticeably Ryu's feats demonstrate how much higher Akuma is in regards to him. Ryu's punches are so fast and powerful that they can send sonic boom shock waves as seen in the trailer and within the SF:IV Movie. In order to create a sonic boom, your punches literally have to break the sound barrier in order to do so, and yet, there was Seth taking all of those hits with utter ease from Ryu.
We all know, without a shadow of a doubt that Akuma>>>>>Seth in durability, as well as overall everything pretty much.
Anyhow, I need not write this anymore, you can simply go up to www.shoryuken.com and look up the thread pertaining to the talk of Street Fighter Character's Canon Feats, abilities, and notions there. Akuma would ocv Kazuya literally, and utterly.
Having the ability to make an island vanish without a trace is a much greater feat than punching one and just shattering it. which ability would be more useful in a fight? i'd say making something vanish out of physical existence.
Kazuya, Mishima, wins..
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very informative. i'm not a kazuya fanboy, in fact i barely ever pick him in tekken but i do know that he's a force to be reckoned with. Akuma's a problem too. I'd pick Akuma at times in sf4, the only problem is that Shun Goku Satsu, which is, in my opinion, a force. Meaning they forced it on that one. It's too much power meaning even for a fictional character like that, it just seems way too unrealistic.
The Devil resides within Kazuya. And just a demon in Akuma. What's more powerful? Of course the lord of demons, which is The Devil.
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I said that because I mentioned the posability of the tectonic stuff 2 years ago, LONG before his time, how would he know that, and better yet, why would he rag on it?
Akuma is not in posession by a Demon, that was bunk made by Capcom of America and is non-canon.
Also, Kazuya is not in posession by the Devil as in Satan... If you've played Tekken 6, you would know that Azazel created the Devils.
so as i said....not sonic booms. not even shockwaves. these are just impact effects. its a technique constantly used in all animes, cartoons and animations. hajime no ippo has them all the time.
a shockwave is what jin and kazuya did in the Tekken6 intro.
^Yep. And they didn't even connect. That pretty much was the force of them throwing punches... Training under water is great and all but that's nothing more than an ok durability showing.. Seriously im starting to think that Feng Wei could've sunk that island. Not saying that Kazuya wins, but saying that Akuma is out of his league is wrong. Also if it were Devil Kazuya I'd definitely give him the win.
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