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Soul Reaver vs. Master Sword (Actually it's Raziel vs. Link)
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Soul Reaver vs. Master Sword (Actually it's Raziel vs. Link)

Pretty much like Master Sword vs. Blade of Olympus, Raziel (from Legacy of Kain Defiance) and Link (from Legend of Zelda) argue which sword of theirs is better and decide to meet again later on with only their swords, nothing else.

Both swords are at their full power and fight will take place in the underworld (the one in LoK universe).


Which sword is the mightiest, the Soul Reaver or the Master Sword? You decide.

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Master Sword fluctuates wildly in power. One second it stops time and seals a country underwater; next second it's a normal sword.

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Breaking barriers
Breaking curses
Breaking faces
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Smiting Evil
Reflecting/resisting magic
Sealing things
Absorbed the power of a Twili Sun


That's it off the top of my head.


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The master sword could win this even if it's in it's weakened version after Ganon kills the sages. erm

What makes it funnier is Link can't even swing at Raziel without reducing the poor boy to a fine paste.


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Master Sword fluctuates wildly in power. One second it stops time and seals a country underwater; next second it's a normal sword.

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Sealing things


Allow me to expound a bit.

- Sealed the road between times (OoT)
- Sealed Ganondorf in the Sacred/Evil Realm while he had his piece of Triforce (OoT)
- Had Ganondorf's full power sealed away (WW)
- Sealed Ganondorf's body in stone (WW)


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Raziel wins by default, you put them in the Underworld. If it was on an overworld/material realm environment then the reaver would still win. The MS is a poor weapon, it does a few things that sound impressive because it acts a lot like a key, slot it in the right places in his universe and it can shut, seal etc but thats useless in a real combat situation. Raziels reaver in its many forms has shown to be able to control the natural elements, blind foes while making Raz invisible, take souls and even makes a nice holy chant when swung in "pure spirit" form.

Link without any other items in the underworld, spite.


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You're a silly kid, BT.

The master sword will hold off the effects of the underworld just like it did the twilight realm, then Link will kick Raziel's skinny ass.


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You're a silly kid, BT.

The master sword will hold off the effects of the underworld just like it did the twilight realm, then Link will kick Raziel's skinny ass.


The effects of the underworld roll eyes (sarcastic) ? I thought you claimed to play LoK games because you just showed a lot of ignorence, it sounded like you did not even realise why I think its spite....

Link is slow, not as agile as Raziel and his sword is a bit pathetic, Raziel can just go invisible and then kill Link at his leisure.

edit: dont steal my lines, I call you and Moo "silly kids" remember?


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No, you call us children. stick out tongue

Edit: The underworld does have a warping nature, much like, y'know, twilight. The sword holds those off. GJ.

As for Raziel going invisible, that's never stopped Link before.


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No, you call us children. stick out tongue

Edit: The underworld does have a warping nature, much like, y'know, twilight. The sword holds those off. GJ.

As for Raziel going invisible, that's never stopped Link before.


Meh same thing, still a thief.

In Legacy of Kain I dont remember the spectral realm "warping" anyone, it just looks warped, as do a lot of its denizens, you still fail to realise even if Link gets a lucky hit on Raziel, Raziel only de-materialises and returns to the underworld again. Raziel while in this fight and area is immortal, he can also simply absorb spiritual energy to heal himself in this realm.

Never stopped him before? hes never faced and invisible Raziel wink


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Never stopped him before? hes never faced and invisible Raziel
Everything he's faced that's been invisible has been infinitely more dangerous.
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In Legacy of Kain I dont remember the spectral realm "warping" anyone,
Turns vampires into wraiths and doesn't afraid of anything.

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you still fail to realise even if Link gets a lucky hit on Raziel, Raziel only de-materialises and returns to the underworld again. Raziel while in this fight and area is immortal, he can also simply absorb spiritual energy to heal himself in this realm.
If Link hits Raziel, he wins. Just because Raziel can come back doesn't mean he didn't already lose. According to the terms of their agreement, Link won, and his sword is therefore superior.

Infact, it's the perfect battleground, Link doesn't have to feel bad for liquifying Raziel by accident.

Edit: It's entirely possible the master sword might go ahead and smite the soul reaver.


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lens of truth solves that.


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The lens isn't allowed, but technicly Raziel's not allowed to go invisible either.

"...Nothing else..." <--No invisibility for Raziel.

Buuut, this is just so damn one-sided that it doesn't matter. Raziel could go invisible and Link would still slaughter him. erm


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1:42 Link instantly unleashes a vicious magic spin attack. Raziel has no defense against this, and gets raped, whether he'd visible or not. no expression

Tadah, instant win.


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The lens isn't allowed, but technicly Raziel's not allowed to go invisible either.

"...Nothing else..." <--No invisibility for Raziel.

Buuut, this is just so damn one-sided that it doesn't matter. Raziel could go invisible and Link would still slaughter him. erm


Raziel gets the reaver, everything I said comes from the reaver.

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Everything he's faced that's been invisible has been infinitely more dangerous.
Turns vampires into wraiths and doesn't afraid of anything.

If Link hits Raziel, he wins. Just because Raziel can come back doesn't mean he didn't already lose. According to the terms of their agreement, Link won, and his sword is therefore superior.

Infact, it's the perfect battleground, Link doesn't have to feel bad for liquifying Raziel by accident.

Edit: It's entirely possible the master sword might go ahead and smite the soul reaver.


Nah I doubt that, hes probably had infinitly more items than he does now as well.

It does not turn vampires into wraiths, Vampires become wraiths. Also assuming it did for lulz, Link has no protection against a passive effect based on the rules of an area he enters, its not magic.

Raziel is not defeated by any length of the word if he just re-materialises.

Or the reavers energy would just disintegrate the master sword. But the sword will never meet, Raziels wrath blade would go through the MS and links body with ease. Link will scream as he sees his soul come out the other side laughing


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Or the reavers energy would just disintegrate the master sword. But the sword will never meet, Raziels wrath blade would go through the MS and links body with ease. Link will scream as he sees his soul come out the other side


Failure on sooo many levels.

For one, the master sword not only stops immaterial attacks, it reflects them entirely. I highly suggest you rethink your strategy or Raziel is gonna eat a faceful of magic reaver.

For two, Link's protected.

For three, spin attack for the instant win.

For four, Link has every physical advantage, and the advantage in skill on top of that.

Link takes this match fifty out of ten times.


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Now that BT mentioned it, the Master Sword is much like a dumbed down Keyblade.


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Failure on sooo many levels.

For one, the master sword not only stops immaterial attacks, it reflects them entirely. I highly suggest you rethink your strategy or Raziel is gonna eat a faceful of magic reaver.

For two, Link's protected.

For three, spin attack for the instant win.

For four, Link has every physical advantage, and the advantage in skill on top of that.

Link takes this match fifty out of ten times.


No limit fallacy statement, show me it reflecting or stopping these attacks.

Not really.

Not really, its just Link spinning with a little topping of magic energy, anyone can spin with their weapons roll eyes (sarcastic)

Not really, hes slow, his skill means nothing and Raziel still has a good bowl of powers just from his reaver. Whats dinky link got? a sad little sword whos feats are few?

He could never take it once, Raz takes it 10/10, 9/10 if he "lets" link hit him and cannot use his reaver spells.


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The Master Sword reflected the magic attacks of Phantom Ganon, Puppet Zelda, and Ganondorf himself.

It also shoots magical beams.


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If its both swords used by two equal opponents then the Reaver for being the better weapon in a fight.

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Now that BT mentioned it, the Master Sword is much like a dumbed down Keyblade.


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