The battle take place in a forestscape. Samus has been assigned to kill Ysera, who can be found sleeping on top of a large lake. The moment Samus engage in hostile activity, Ysera is in the game.
Like these guys, for instance. There are also Chozo Ghosts, Coverns, Phantoon, Phazon Metroids, and Dark Pirate Commandos. All are either capable of becoming intangible or are ghosts.
If I understood green dragons right, when they go incorporeal, they enter the Emerald Dream and leave their form behind. Kinda like they take their body but leave their state of mind behind or something. Q'Anilia told me about it, but I can not remember exactly how she said it.
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The way I understand incorporeality, is that 90% of fiction uses the "D&D" brand, which basicly means:
Something is incorporeal by existing on a paralell plane or dimension such as the ethereal realm, ect.
This seems to be the brand WarCraft uses. Basicly, it's in the long run similar to most other forms of incorporeality, and many attacks exist on multiple planes to deal with this. In DnD, for example, most energy, magic or magic weapons also effect incorporeal creatures.
Now, if this is how WarCraft works, Samus shouldn't have too much trouble, because her energy can harm the ethereal Chozo ghosts.
The above is based on limited knowledge. /Disclaimer.
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Chozo Ghosts constantly move through walls and, according to their scan data, flit in and out of existance. Now, it may sound odd, but Samus can attack things that periodically do not exist. However, with the X-Ray visor Samus can attack them anytime, presumablly including their periods of non-existance.
She also has the Dark visor, which allows her see and attack those between dimensions, in other dimensions, or phased out of local timespace.
Now, I'm pretty sure Samus can hit Ysera. Can we move on?
Need to stop you there. I know little about Samus, but she can not attack a target that does not exist.
It was never strictly argued that she could not hit her. What I will point out though, is that the videos I watched with Samus hitting the ghost, she did not seem to do a lot of damage.
Judging by her blasts, this will end up anything but a one-shot (From Samus. Not sure if Ysera can one-shot her)
I call game mechanics on the damage. Especially in the Prime series where it takes one uncharged shot to down a Space Pirate in cutscenes but in gameplay it's three fully charged shots.
That's still a tremendous difference in firepower. It doesn't really matter what the target was, but the power beam displayed things in cutscenes it hasn't in gameplay. Namely, killing relatively strong enemies in one hit and tossing them far enough to make any old western movie proud.
And just to make a note, Samus can only hit Chozo Ghosts with the power beam or super missiles (the power beam/missile combo.) The plasma, wave, and ice beams pass through. On the other hand, any weapon can hit Hunter Ing, Coverns, and Phantoon. Phazon Metroids can phase through missiles, but any beam can hit them.
It really depends on the game how Samus deals with intangibility.
Looking over the little that is written in this thread and the things written in the Samus Vs. Lich King thread, Samus is done for the moment she raise that gun with hostile intention. Ysera's greatest showing is her killing an entire army with a thought. Granted, she was enraged, but details has never been something KMC cared much to take in consideration
And repeatedly defeated someone that survived the explosion of a planet and could wreck a mountain easily.
But now I'm curious. How did Ysera destroy that army? I've brought up Gorea before, at least in the Lich King threads. The guy life drained several planets, and according to some lore, possibly soul drained. It took the sacrifice of the remainng species just to seal him. While still sealed, he sent a psychic message from his interdimensional prison and across galaxies to lure someone to unseal him. Samus arrived, unsealed him, and kicked his ass.
She has a history of that kind of thing. The source of phazon corrupting Tallon IV, the Metroid Prime itself, was sealed in the Cypher. Samus unsealed and ass kicked. Emperor Ing, ruler of the Ing Horde ans holding the Light of Aether, sealed in the Sky Temple by the 9 Keys. Guess what happened.
And Samus has killed armies, too. There was the Metroid Genocide as well as constant battles with the Space Pirates.
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