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ROTJ Sidious vs Vader, Yoda and Windu.
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Darthadi
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ROTJ Sidious vs Vader, Yoda and Windu.

All members of the team are in their primes. (Canon).

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Team. Definitely.

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Before the last comic I would say team. After the last comic? Sidious. Canon Vader is a monster. Possibly on the level of Yoda. Casually Sidious took away his lightsaber, gripped him with the force choking him, and broke each limb in the force as he was helpless. ESB Sidious being able ti make Vader that much of a joke.. yeah I don't see the team winning. Since ROTJ Sidious is likely even more powerful.

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Vader is a non factor. Not sure if Yoda can carry his team


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After the last comic Palps wins easly. Vader is in the same tier as Yoda and he got stomped

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Now granted, this version of Vader has wallowed in grief as per Palpatine himself, but it's hard to belive that he would be that far weaker than prime Vader.

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The team takes it, I never was convinced Vader was on Yoda & Windu's tier. I also don't really think Sidious grows that much in power from ROTS to the OT.


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Why not? He had 20+ years of power growth and time to study the force without the jedi interfering.

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Why not? He had 20+ years of power growth and time to study the force without the jedi interfering.


Because I don't see that as being more of a boost than the boost he'd get from the eradication of the Jedi and the tilting of the galactic force to the DS.


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Let's put it this way. Do you think that ROTS Sidious can do to Anskin what ESB Sidious did to Vader?
Keep in mind thst in canon Vader>Anakin

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Let's put it this way. Do you think that ROTS Sidious can do to Anskin what ESB Sidious did to Vader?
Keep in mind thst in canon Vader>Anakin



Yeah, I imagine that fight going very similarly to TCWs vision. 1:52


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Well, i disagree. I think Anakin is somehow close to ROTS Sidious based on his fight with Dooku and Vader>Anakin yet ESB Sidious stomped Vader

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Palpatine wins.


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The team takes it, I never was convinced Vader was on Yoda & Windu's tier. I also don't really think Sidious grows that much in power from ROTS to the OT.


I don't see anything Windu has or does that puts him on the level of Vader's best feats in Canon. Vader has so many feats that puts Windu's telekinetic and combat feats to shame.

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Well, i disagree. I think Anakin is somehow close to ROTS Sidious based on his fight with Dooku and Vader>Anakin yet ESB Sidious stomped Vader


The same Dooku Sidious telekinetically throttled from across the galaxy? I think it's pretty consistent with Sidious' feats.


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The same Dooku Sidious telekinetically throttled from across the galaxy? I think it's pretty consistent with Sidious' feats.

Dooku was kneeling. Why you assume he defended himself

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Dooku was kneeling. Why you assume he defended himself


Because Dooku isn't a fool and is one of the most powerful force users in the mythos.


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Because Dooku isn't a fool
I agree.

This is also why I don't think Dooku would have tried to actively defend against/counter Palpatine's choke, and risk incurring his full wrath.


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I agree.

This is also why I don't think Dooku would have tried to actively defend against/counter Palpatine's choke, and risk incurring his full wrath.


What exactly would Palpatine do if Dooku defended himself? Dooku was still an essential pawn in his game at that point.


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If Vader could throw Palpatine to the main reaction by sacrificing himself. Then Vader should be able to temporarily restrain Palpatine and Windu and Yoda kill Palpatine while he being restrained by Vader
Though Vader probably wouldn't survive

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