Darthadi
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ROTJ Sidious vs Vader, Yoda and Windu.
All members of the team are in their primes. (Canon).
Oct 14th, 2020 01:04 PM
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Team. Definitely.
Oct 15th, 2020 03:30 AM
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Before the last comic I would say team. After the last comic? Sidious. Canon Vader is a monster. Possibly on the level of Yoda. Casually Sidious took away his lightsaber, gripped him with the force choking him, and broke each limb in the force as he was helpless. ESB Sidious being able ti make Vader that much of a joke.. yeah I don't see the team winning. Since ROTJ Sidious is likely even more powerful.
Oct 17th, 2020 05:37 PM
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Vader is a non factor. Not sure if Yoda can carry his team
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Oct 17th, 2020 10:33 PM
Darthadi
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After the last comic Palps wins easly. Vader is in the same tier as Yoda and he got stomped
Oct 17th, 2020 11:42 PM
Darthadi
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Now granted, this version of Vader has wallowed in grief as per Palpatine himself, but it's hard to belive that he would be that far weaker than prime Vader.
Oct 17th, 2020 11:45 PM
Lord Stark
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The team takes it, I never was convinced Vader was on Yoda & Windu's tier. I also don't really think Sidious grows that much in power from ROTS to the OT.
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Oct 17th, 2020 11:59 PM
Darthadi
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Why not? He had 20+ years of power growth and time to study the force without the jedi interfering.
Oct 18th, 2020 12:23 AM
Lord Stark
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darthadi
Why not? He had 20+ years of power growth and time to study the force without the jedi interfering.
Because I don't see that as being more of a boost than the boost he'd get from the eradication of the Jedi and the tilting of the galactic force to the DS.
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Oct 18th, 2020 01:44 AM
Darthadi
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Let's put it this way. Do you think that ROTS Sidious can do to Anskin what ESB Sidious did to Vader?
Keep in mind thst in canon Vader>Anakin
Oct 18th, 2020 01:49 AM
Lord Stark
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darthadi
Let's put it this way. Do you think that ROTS Sidious can do to Anskin what ESB Sidious did to Vader?
Keep in mind thst in canon Vader>Anakin
Yeah, I imagine that fight going very similarly to TCWs vision. 1:52
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Oct 18th, 2020 12:35 PM
Darthadi
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Well, i disagree. I think Anakin is somehow close to ROTS Sidious based on his fight with Dooku and Vader>Anakin yet ESB Sidious stomped Vader
Oct 18th, 2020 01:20 PM
Galan007
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Palpatine wins.
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Oct 18th, 2020 01:21 PM
Chosen_Sith
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lord Stark
The team takes it, I never was convinced Vader was on Yoda & Windu's tier. I also don't really think Sidious grows that much in power from ROTS to the OT.
I don't see anything Windu has or does that puts him on the level of Vader's best feats in Canon. Vader has so many feats that puts Windu's telekinetic and combat feats to shame.
Oct 18th, 2020 05:51 PM
Lord Stark
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darthadi
Well, i disagree. I think Anakin is somehow close to ROTS Sidious based on his fight with Dooku and Vader>Anakin yet ESB Sidious stomped Vader
The same Dooku Sidious telekinetically throttled from across the galaxy? I think it's pretty consistent with Sidious' feats.
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Oct 18th, 2020 08:07 PM
Darthadi
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lord Stark
The same Dooku Sidious telekinetically throttled from across the galaxy? I think it's pretty consistent with Sidious' feats.
Dooku was kneeling. Why you assume he defended himself
Oct 18th, 2020 08:13 PM
Lord Stark
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darthadi
Dooku was kneeling. Why you assume he defended himself
Because Dooku isn't a fool and is one of the most powerful force users in the mythos.
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Oct 19th, 2020 12:08 AM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lord Stark
Because Dooku isn't a fool
I agree.
This is also why I don't think Dooku would have tried to actively defend against/counter Palpatine's choke, and risk incurring his full wrath.
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Oct 19th, 2020 12:25 AM
Lord Stark
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
I agree.
This is also why I don't think Dooku would have tried to actively defend against/counter Palpatine's choke, and risk incurring his full wrath.
What exactly would Palpatine do if Dooku defended himself? Dooku was still an essential pawn in his game at that point.
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Oct 19th, 2020 12:51 AM
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If Vader could throw Palpatine to the main reaction by sacrificing himself. Then Vader should be able to temporarily restrain Palpatine and Windu and Yoda kill Palpatine while he being restrained by Vader
Though Vader probably wouldn't survive
Oct 19th, 2020 08:43 AM
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