The Flash "Fact" This might help you in Flash VS. matches.
Once again...there is misconception about our favorite speedster. But this blog might be of great help. Might also clear confusion.
http://www.4thletter.net/2006/09/flash-fact-jla-89/
Best analysis made by a fan (IMO)
Re: The Flash "Fact" This might help you in Flash VS. matches.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarfhe wasn't going faster than light....sorry.
Once again...there is misconception about our favorite speedster. But this blog might be of great help. Might also clear confusion.http://www.4thletter.net/2006/09/flash-fact-jla-89/
Best analysis made by a fan (IMO)
1) the light from the nuclear detonation arrived to "the camera" before the last person was dropped off, and as the writer stated there was an interval between their arrivals. and the fireball was almost in the stratosphere (notice the over heated cloud layer) again far before the arrival of the last survivor, that part of the explosion happens at least 5 seconds after the initial blast. 😬
and 2) the writer clearly intended for him to be traveling UNDER light speed, kinda sullies their attempt at time keeping.
chalk it up to writer fvck up.
The plot and the artwork clearly shows the Flash evacuating the city in .000001 microseconds.
If the Flash was going anything less than the speed of light, they would have all died....
Joe Kelly simply had no conception of how fast Wally was going. He f'ed up on the math.
Wally was obviously going a ridiculous amount over the speed of light if he evacuated an entire city in .00001 microseconds making 70 mile round trips.
And that's not even the fastest thing Wally has ever done anyway....
Originally posted by Original Smurph
What the writer intends > basic math...
The writer intended that Wally evacuated an entire city in .00001 microseconds and made at least 250,000 roundtrips to a disclosed location 70 miles away.
We can either ignore this happened or we realize that the writer isn't the brightest bulb when it comes to math.
If Wally was traveling under the speed of light, the city would have perished.
Originally posted by Draco69The writer intended for Wally to have done that, and to have done it travelling under the speed of light.
The writer intended that Wally evacuated an entire city in .00001 microseconds and made at least 250,000 roundtrips to a disclosed location 70 miles away.We can either ignore this happened or we realize that the writer isn't the brightest bulb when it comes to math.
If Wally was traveling under the speed of light, the city would have perished.
Does it make sense? Not even a little bit. But then, neither does Captain America punching out Hulk, and that still happened.
I've heard of it also being calculated that the manner in which Gwen Stacy fell wouldn't have snapped her neck- that doesn't mean we should ignore all the writing since then and pretend she's still alive.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
The writer intended for Wally to have done that, and to have done it travelling under the speed of light.Does it make sense? Not even a little bit. But then, neither does Captain America punching out Hulk, and that still happened.
I've heard of it also being calculated that the manner in which Gwen Stacy fell wouldn't have snapped her neck- that doesn't mean we should ignore all the writing since then and pretend she's still alive.
Which he didn't. Joe Kelly even admitted the fcuk up as he had thought the feat was well under the capabilities of someone going under the speed of light. But when he realized that Flash was going ridiculously fast and obviously over the speed of light, he admitted the mistake and validated the feat.
The plot specifically states the time frame, distance, and parameters of the feat. Joe Kelly simply effed up on the math.
Again. This isn't a PIS feat like the ones you mentioned with Captain America or Spider-Man. Wally ran so damn fast he outran death and ran till the end of time. It was stated his speed was INFINITY....
Originally posted by Draco69I don't doubt Wally's ability to go past light, and if you have an interview or something where Joe Kelly states that Flash was going over lightspeed in that instance, then that would change everything. Otherwise, the word of the writer (in this case, under lightspeed) overrides the math that we can do. To say otherwise is to choose one piece of written word over the other- who's to say that all the parameters of the feat were off and that Flash actually took far longer, but still only traveled under lightspeed?
Which he didn't. Joe Kelly even admitted the fcuk up as he had thought the feat was well under the capabilities of someone going under the speed of light. But when he realized that Flash was going ridiculously fast and obviously over the speed of light, he admitted the mistake and validated the feat.The plot specifically states the time frame, distance, and parameters of the feat. Joe Kelly simply effed up on the math.
Again. This isn't a PIS feat like the ones you mentioned with Captain America or Spider-Man. Wally ran so damn fast he outran death and ran till the end of time. It was stated his speed was INFINITY....
Originally posted by psycho gundam
he was traveling faster than the eye to perceive, not faster than light.and
Uh, no. What 'eye'? Who's watching him.
FACT: Flash evacuated more than two million people in .00001 microseconds making at least 250,000 round trips to a location 70 miles away.
No, if we go by your logic, the feat never happened and we'll ignore all this. But writer specifically stated that's what happened.
Joe Kelly later admitted he messed up on the math. (the guy barely graduated high school....)
Which again, isn't the fastest thing Wally has done. One time, he outran instantneous teleportation. From 120 lightyears away. I'm not even sure math can even calculate how fast Wally was moving....
Originally posted by Draco69
The plot and the artwork clearly shows the Flash evacuating the city in .000001 microseconds.If the Flash was going anything less than the speed of light, they would have all died....
Exactly...the panels speak for themselves.
Here is the real thing that tingles my head noodle.
The story said 35 miles away....I'm wondering if Flash calculated that distance or he merely took a guess?
In this case his calculation of safety area and his speed made the feat more difficult to accomplish. So, I willing to say that not only did Flash made speed of light...but maybe even speed of thought (now that is my guess...not making conclusions)
Anywhoo...I'll dig for that issue...which I'm sure is somewhere in my pile of boxes.
Originally posted by Draco69FACT: He traveled under lightspeed
FACT: Flash evacuated more than two million people in .00001 microseconds making at least 250,000 round trips to a location 70 miles away.
See how easy that is?
The only way one of those two facts change is if Joe Kelly or DC say so... otherwise, they're both equally true.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
I don't doubt Wally's ability to go past light, and if you have an interview or something where Joe Kelly states that Flash was going over lightspeed in that instance, then that would change everything. Otherwise, the word of the writer (in this case, under lightspeed) overrides the math that we can do. To say otherwise is to choose one piece of written word over the other- who's to say that all the parameters of the feat were off and that Flash actually took far longer, but still only traveled under lightspeed?
Well, I have about a paragraph of facts dictating what happened plus the actual artwork that clearly shows what happened.
You have only one sentence....
I'll take the former over the latter....
Originally posted by Draco69You don't take either over the other, as they're both written word from the author.
Well, I have about a paragraph of facts dictating what happened plus the actual artwork that clearly shows what happened.You have only one sentence....
I'll take the former over the latter....
Originally posted by Original Smurph
FACT: He traveled under lightspeedSee how easy that is?
The only way one of those two facts change is if Joe Kelly or DC say so... otherwise, they're both equally true.
Which he did. He admitted his mistake. He also had the Flash being quite literally two places at the same time at opposite ends of the globe. He was a major Flash wanker.